Text 13712, 305 rader
Skriven 2010-06-03 20:47:46 av Ed Hulett (1:123/789.0)
Kommentar till text 13702 av mark lewis (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Shooting holes
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On 06/03/2010 10:49 AM, mark lewis -> Ed Hulett wrote:
ml>>> but i'm not arguing :P :lol:
EH>>> How old are you?
ml>> old enough to have retired from the USAF before i turned 40 and have
ml>> four grandchildren...
EH>> You certainly don't act it. You act like you are in your teens.
ml> now you see what i was seeing when i caught up on the 200+ echos my
ml> system carries for fidonet ;)
I can't imagine why anyone would want to read that many echoes.
ml>> how old are you?
EH>> Old enough to be looking at my 40 HS reunion soon.
ml> i hear ya! i went to too many HS' due to moving about so i don't get
ml> anything like reunion notices and the like... heck, some social
ml> networking sites won't even let you choose your proper school because it
ml> merged with another... i've written them to inquire about adding the
ml> original as a standalone option and they point to the existing one... i
ml> respond that i didn't go to that other school nor the mixed/joined
ml> one... that they merged is one thing but trying to make folk say that
ml> they went to "A-B HS" when they went to "A HS" and "B HS" was "over
ml> there for sports competitions" is another...
I don't have that problem since I went to a small town HS. The building has
changed, but it's still the same school.
ml> that'd be tantamount to forcing Yale (or Harvard) folks choose
ml> (fictional) "Harvard-Yale University" when they went to Yale or Harvard...
That's just not right.
ml> damned young'uns don't understand school rivalries like we used to ;)
I remember when I was a senior and one of our rivals filled our courtyard with
cabbage. The principle made the jocks clean it up. Man it stunk!
ml> [trim]
EH>>> I don't pretend to know all the dynamics of trying to stem the flow
EH>>> of an oil gusher a mile under the sea.
ml>> why should that be a requirement for coming up with an idea that might
ml>> help the stem the flow of material from that hole in the ground?? i've
ml>> definitely not seen that listed as a requirement... have you??
EH>> It certainly is a requirement for workable ideas.
ml> say what? having a piece of sheepskin on the wall is a requirement for a
ml> workable idea to stop the flow of oil? if that's the case, then it is
ml> easy enough to fulfill... deity knows there's numerous diploma and
ml> degree spammers out there who will sell ya a piece of sheepskin in a
ml> heartbeat...
I didn't say a degree on your wall was a requirement, I said knowledge of all
the dynamics involved. Usually engineers or scientists would have a better idea
of what may work and what may not. Just the fact that all the things they have
tried and failed shows that it takes more than a casual knowledge of what is
going on down there.
EH>> The pressures down there are extreme plus they have to use remote
EH>> unmanned underwater rovers to do all the mechanical work. Their
EH>> diamond saw was stuck on one of the pipes and now they aren't sure
EH>> it's even working now that it's free.
ml> yes, i watched that via the live feed...
I wouldn't want to be the one operating the ROV. The pressure on that person
must be more than the pressures 5000 feet below them.
ml> i don't doubt that some knowledge of the pressures and other things
ml> being run into would be a benefit but geez, these guys don't seem to
ml> have it all together even with their sheepskins... no one has ever had
ml> to work at these pressures so this is a learning experiance for all
ml> anyway... as far as having a sheepskin as a requirement or qualification
ml> goes, one can wear it as a loincloth for all the good they seem to be
ml> doing at the moment...
That's what it looks like watching the feed, but those guys are working almost
around the clock trying to come up with something that will work.
ml> [trim]
EH>>> There you go with that high opinion again. You really
EH>>> should get help.
ml>> consider this as my therapy, then :P ;)
EH>> You need serious therapy.
ml> but but but... where's your sheepskin, doc?
I wear it as a loin cloth.
ml>> oh wait! are you telling me that i should "get help" as
ml>> in getting some others to come in and join the fray?
EH>> No, you need professional help.
ml> there are professional shit slingers, ya know... i'll make a phone call
ml> :P :lol:
They are all being employed by the White House.
ml>> then the question comes to mind of "what are your qualifications that
ml>> enable you to tell me in need to seek some sort of assitance for some
ml>> problem that you think i have?" that also brings the question of "what
ml>> qualifications do you have to determine that i (may) have a problem??"
EH>> It's just an observation.
ml> and one highly limited to a tiny section of glass or plastic surrounded
ml> by a plastic bezel ;) too bad you can't really see or get to know me
ml> like that... oh well... yer still learnin' ain'cha? ah no ah iz ever
ml> day... it bees much fun, to! :lol:
Hey, I have a 23" 1080p LCD monitor here. Lots of real estate.
ml> [trim]
ml>>> i guess we can start calling you thomas or tommie or some such,
ml> then...
EH>>> Whatever makes you happy.
ml>> that surely won't do it... FWIW: the reference to "thomas" was in the
ml>> manner of "doubting thomas" as in "you sure are a doubting thomas" ;)
EH>> I couldn't care less why you thought it was relevant.
ml> "couldn't care less" or "could care less"?? one of those phrases means
ml> quite the opposite of what most folk think it does when they mistakenly
ml> use it in place of the other ;)
If I could care less, I would have said so, but I tried and I couldn't.
ml> [trim]
ml>> where has that been stated by my writtings? i can tell you... no
ml>> where... maybe you could try another tactic? possibly one that has some
ml>> bearing on what really happened? are you psychic?
EH>> You may have tried hard to cover up the fact that you didn't do a
EH>> search, but it is blatantly obvious from looking at the fact that
EH>> it took only seconds to find citation with the simplest of search
EH>> terms.
ml> terms that you chose to use... obviously they were not the ones i chose
ml> to use... that or our search settings are highly different from each
ml> other... do you leave the pr0n filter on or turn it off?
They were the very words I had posted to you... "Obama administration gives
safety award to BP Deepwater Horizon"
ml> it doesn't matter now, does it? the info is available and easily at
ml> hand... do you always argue for the sake of arguing like this? ;)
Yep, it's old news now.
ml> [trim]
EH>>> I'm not picking nits, I'm pointing out your lack of honesty.
ml>> ORLY? you must be psychic... tell us what the winning powerball numbers
ml>> for tomorrow's drawing, please ;) while you're at it, tell us how you
ml>> know that i'm being dishonest...
EH>> It's easy to see your dishonesty. No psychic powers needed.
ml> then you are as blind as the proverbial bat... i have no reason not to
ml> be honest and, quite frankly, i cannot stand a liar so give it up...
Are you calling me a liar?
EH>>> You make a claim that there was no evidence on the internet WRT
EH>>> the BHO administration awarding BP a safety award just prior to
EH>>> the rig blowing up.
ml>> no i did not... stop putting words in my mouth... in fact, stop
ml>> interpreting what i write and twisting it into something i didn't
ml>> state...
EH>> Yes, you did. You made the claim that you could find nothing,
ml> that was not a claim... that was a fact... the terms i used resulted in
ml> nothing related to BP that i could easily see...
So, you don't know how to do a relevant search?
EH>> implying that it wasn't there.
ml> that's your own stupidity and/or ignorance sticking its foot in your
ml> mouth... i never implied such and neither did my writen words... you put
ml> that implication there with your interpretation which should never have
ml> been done in the first place...
So, it's my fault you claimed you couldn't find it?
ml> do you use a left or right handed spinmaster?
I don't do spin. I gather information and make my own conclusion.
ml> [trim]
EH>>> You made the claim, back it up. You are the one claiming I have
EH>>> heroes and that I emulate them. Either you had some idea who these
EH>>> supposed heroes are, or you're just shooting in the dark.
ml>> you made the claim that i'm being dishonest... you made the claim
ml> that i
ml>> stated there was no evidence on the internet of an award given by the
ml>> current administration to BP for that oil well... how's about you start
ml>> off by backing those up ;)
EH>> I have backed up every claim I have made.
ml> no you haven't... not with physical verifiable data and evidence... you
ml> loose again!
Huh? verifiable by whom?
EH>> You, OTOH, have been going in circles trying to keep from backing
EH>> up any of your claims.
ml> nope... wrong again... you obviously don't know what i'm doing and
ml> you're stuck in some mode that won't let you step back far enough to see
ml> it... sorry 'bout that...
I doubt you know what you are doing. But, keep on doing it if it makes you
happy.
ml> [trim]
EH>>> Your use of the term "bright boy" and "I'm sure you'll figure it
EH>>> out someday" in an attempt to call my intelligence into question.
ml>> i wasn't calling your intelligence into question... you are pretty
ml>> "bright" aren't you? you did graduate from high school, didn't you?
ml>> you're obviously bright enough to carry on some degree of discussion so
ml>> why are you taking that praise in such a negative manner?
<snip>
ml>> as for you "figuring it out someday", surely that is possible... you
ml> may
ml>> not know the answer today or tomorrow but you'll find it/one
ml>> "someday"... you're not stupid or uneducated... in fact, you are rather
ml>> bright and knowledgable... so why all the negativity? surely it isn't
ml>> due to ignorance...
EH>> Keep twisting and spinning...
ml> you're the one with the spinmaster... maybe you need to reverse the plug
ml> so it'll spin in the correct direction??
EH>>> You think you are clever, but you really aren't.
ml>> sounds like you have a personal problem there ;)
EH>> That's right, make your behavior my problem. Typical.
ml> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... dude! you kill me!! i'm not making my behavior
ml> your problem... i'm making YOUR behavior YOUR problem...
ml> GetItTogether!<tm> :ROTFLMAO:
What behavior? You came in here on the attack, that's your problem.
EH>>>> You make a comment and when challenged, you act like you're too
EH>>>> smart to deal with such questions. Either back up your claims, or
EH>>>> crawl back under the rock you came from.
EH>>> <childish nonsense snipped>
ml>> awww... you didn't like that?
EH>> I thought it was childish. "Like" has nothing to do with it.
ml> maybe you'd prefer something like this?
<extremely broken ascci art snipped>
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