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Skriven 2007-06-08 17:45:00 av JIM HOLSONBACK
     Kommentar till en text av JOHNJWILSON
Ärende: Republican realists?
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 ->  ->  BK> Like the snake handlers. And the child beaters. And a lot of
 ->  ->  BK> other things.

 ->  -> Thus showing the freedom of religion is not absolute.

 ->  JO> Snakehandling is approved by Paul to show faith...

-> Paul?  Where?  I think you may have in mind the questionable verses
-> at the end of Mark's gospel.

 JO> Nope. Acts 28

I disagree (big surprise!).
Synopsis: After the shipwreck at Malta, Paul gathered brush to throw in
the warming fire.  A viper came out of the brush to escape the heat, and
latched onto Paul's hand.  Paul shook it off into the fire, and was
unharmed.

There is no indication there that Paul "handled" the snake, unless you
want to argue that shaking it off is the same as handling it, and there
is no indication that Paul "approved" of handling that snake or any
other snake as a means of demonstrating faith, or for any other reason.

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 ->  JO> ..And _I believe in TWO Gods...

 -> Why?

 JO> Because the One Great Law of the Universe is the Law of Opposites.

Where is this "One Great Law" to be found?

 JO> Most every particle has its opposite...

So deities (real or imagined) must also?  Where can I find the opposite
of JohnJWilson?

Aside:  I once wondered if it might be interesting to have a clone made
of myself, but I figgered I probably wouldn't be able to get along with
the soab.

 JO> The God most pray to is Omni-everything. Knowing the past and future
 JO> and uh...everything...He does not act. Why would he?

What makes you think that knowledge, even of the future, precludes
taking action? Surely it doesn't work that way for beings at our level.
I have good knowledge of my future- - tomorrow AM, soon after my
annoying dog insists that I get up out of bed and take her outside, I
will need (with rapidly growing urgency) to have my regular morning
sit-down. Having knowledge of that future event, I take appropriate
action based on it, and do not take her on a walk which gets me too far
from my throne.  When the urge whispers low "thou must", the codger
replies "I'd better".

And so much for the Founders' eloquent and inspiring affirmation:
"And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on
the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other
our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Providence?  What a quaint notion- - the divine actively participating
in the affairs of men.  Boo on TJ for writing such a thing.  He should
have been summarily excommunicated from the ranks of the Theists for
writing such a thing!

 JO> His Opposite however is a Goddess who is ignorant and seeks
 JO>  nothing but knowledge of the Universe...the which man was invented to
 JO> help. WhatEVER you learn is appreciated.

And that's all she does when she gets that knowledge, appreciates it?
How?  And that's why man was invented?  Heck, even the shorter catechism
(formerly learned by children) starts right off with a more elegant and
interesting answer than that - - "Q1: What is the chief end of man?  A:
To glorify God, and to enjoy him forever."

 JO> That's WHY knowledge is the only good; the only evil is uh...being...
 JO> ...uh...too dumb to spell ignorance... :-)

Hee.  But sorry, I remain unconvinced- - you have yet to show anything
good about it.

 ->(Two Gods)

 ->  JO> (One is content, the other is curious...)

 -> Still into that undynamic duo thing?  I still don't know why you prefer
 -> knowledge to wisdom.

 JO> One is plentiful, the other very rare...

Isn't knowledge the more plentiful of the two?

 JO> ============

 ->  JO> ...It's pretty damn absolute. :-)

 -> What is?

 JO> I think the reference  was to ...uh...freedom of religion...

Good answer (and suspicions confirmed).

- - -  JimH.

... "Our constitution protects aliens, drunks, and U.S. Senators."
...   - - Will Rogers

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