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Text 4612, 156 rader
Skriven 2007-06-22 16:36:08 av JOHNJWILSON
     Kommentar till en text av BOB KLAHN
Ärende: Israel still screwed
============================
 
->  AH> From the Baltimore Sun
->  AH> Palestinians' power shuffle leaves the deck stacked against
->  AH> Israel
-> 
->  AH> Cal Thomas
-> 
->  AH> June 20, 2007
-> 
->  AH> ARLINGTON, Va. -- The Bush administration's announced goal...

To enforce
 Democracy in this middle east...

To oversee the election to insure the people will be heard

...Well, that really worked.

Yet another mission accomplished...

And the American People both Dems AND GOP are
united finally. 

...in counting the days 'till the Reign of Incompetence

ends.

=======
Next week, the CIA Great Dump, when we will learn about
how the CIA has cleverly abandoned the Rule of Law...

Fitting right in with this administration...

'There has never been a democracy that did not
commit suicide.' --John Adams...

Has anyone else felt that the Republic is imploding?

----
Ah, but the Democrats will save us. Yeah, yeah...


.............













 


->  AH> for Israel and the "Palestinian people" has been two
->  AH> states, living side by side in peace. The administration is
->  AH> two-thirds of the way there. There are now two states - one
->  AH> in Gaza, headed by the militant Hamas organization, which
->  AH> shot its way to power,
-> 
->  Actually, Hamas won power in th election. They had to seize the
->  power they won from those who refused to accept the election
->  results.
-> 
->  ...
-> 
->  AH> Whatever their names, be they groups such as Hamas, Fatah,
->  AH> Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and al-Qaida, or states such as
->  AH> Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran, their objectives are
->  AH> identical: the annihilation of the democratic Jewish state
->  AH> and the elimination of all Jews, either by death or
->  AH> displacement, from the land. To argue otherwise and to
-> 
->  The locals may well want Isreal gone, and their land back, but
->  the outsider's I believe, are in it for power. Very few Arabs
->  give a damn about the Palestinians. To them, esp the Arab
->  National leaders sponsoring the groups, having an enemy is a
->  necessary condition to taking or holding power. They learned
->  that long before "Brave New World".
-> 
->  AH> Hamas won't stop with Gaza. After its victory over poorly
->  AH> directed Israeli forces in Lebanon last summer, why should
->  AH> it?
-> 
->  Uh... that was Hizbollah, not Hamas.
-> 
->  AH> The one thing terrorists understand is weakness. They
->  AH> perceive Israel, under Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, as weak,
-> 
->  Many Israelis appear to perceive Israel as greatly weakened.
->  Weakened by 4 decades as an occupying power. The Israeli
->  military has been bled much like the US military is being bled
->  in Iraq. Slow attrition, and diversion from the focus on
->  preparing for war to conducting police type operations against
->  what are really gangs, has sapped the army.
-> 
->  In his book, "Where The Right Went Wrong", conservative
->  commentator Pat Buchanan said perpetual war destroys
->  democracies. I believe he was right about that. I have come to
->  believe that perpetual occupation duty corrupts armies. Over a
->  generation is enough, it appears.
-> 
->  AH> and they are going for Israel's jugular. Benyamin Elon, a
->  AH> conservative member of Israel's Knesset, said, "The Fatah
->  AH> is diminishing in front of our eyes, and a group of
->  AH> gangsters is taking over. Israel can wake up now from the
->  AH> delusion of an independent Palestinian state."
-> 
->  Isreal has few choices in the matter. The Jerusleum Post talks
->  of using Fatah as a counterweight to Hamas. OTOH, wasn't Hamas
->  originally encouraged by Israel as a counterweight to Fatah? Now
->  Israel is supposedly thinking of using their original enemy
->  against their own creature? Seems a bit like somebody isn't
->  catching on.
-> 
->  ...
-> 
->  AH> Israel has two choices: Surrender now,
->  AH> or prepare for all-out war with catastrophic results.
-> 
->  Gwynn Dyer gives Israel two choices, a two state solution, or
->  complete unification into Israel.
-> 
->  The first choice requires giving land back to the Palestinians,
->  and accepting all the risks. That will be an expensive and
->  dangerous route.
-> 
->  The alternative leads to giving the Palestinians full Israeli
->  citizenship, or having a resident second class population. The
->  first means the end of Israel as Jewish state. The second means
->  the end of Israel as a democracy.
-> 
->  I give Isreal a third choice, perpetual war. Well, not really
->  perpetual, because sooner or later the rest of the world will
->  decide that is no longer in their interest, and support for
->  Israel will dry up.
-> 
->  None of these solutions look good for Isreal. Only if they can
->  find a way to a just and lasting peace will Israel find a way
->  out. Just being the means to lasting.
-> 
->  ...
-> 
-> 
-> BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn
-> 
-> ... If you want peace, work for justice. <- Pope John Paul II
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