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Skriven 2007-08-22 20:52:33 av Dan Ceppa (1:138/666.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Tim Richardson
Ärende: More neo-con tactics
============================
-> On 22 Aug 07  04:57:08, Tim Richardson got back to Dan Ceppa 
-> Re: More neo-con tactics

 >> That's the fun part of time travel, John.  You don't ask for
 >> it, or you don't ask for it correctly, you don't get to take
 >> it with you.  You really need to have watched more Twilight Zones.

 TR> Most of what you've said here seems to have come from you having
 TR> watched too `many' Twilight Zones. 

My illustration is quite apt.  The very fact that John has seen 
fit to make allowances that reflect changes in the his basic 
premise that the original Constitution was perfect says it all. 

 DC>> In any event, the 2 items you did allow for came into being because
 DC>> of liberal activism.  Are you a closet liberal?

 JM>> You will have to prove your premise.
 
 DC> I already did, John.  


 TR> You've proved nothing. All you've done is ignore the fact that there
 TR> is a voting block in this country that votes in almost every election
 TR> who are not even supposed to `be' voting; illegal aliens. 

That has nothing to do with my analogy.   As it stands, illegal 
aliens, in fact even legal aliens, do not have voting rights.  


 TR> And the so-called *law-makers* who are in the various legislative
 TR> bodies in the country totally ignore the fact that many thousands of
 TR> illegal aliens vote in important elections, and skew the result. 

You mean such as that Republican governor of California? 

 TR> It got so bad that even some DMV's were automatically registering
 TR> people to vote, who applied and recieved drivers licenses, and made no
 TR> effort whatever to determine that individuals citizenship, or legal
 TR> right to be in America in the first place. 

Yep, him.  Now, where have I ever stated that alliens both legal 
and illegal have full rights as citizens?  

 
 >You didn't
 > make an exception for landownship.  Nor did you make an
 > allowance for woman's suffrage until I called you on it.

 TR> Your strawman aside.......
 
The strawman is all yours.  You are the one trying to equate 
what I wrote with voting rights for illegal aliens.  The example 
I gave for womman's sufferage is an actual right in this day 
and age that doesn't exist if the laws on voting are rolled 
back to the time of the Constitution's inception.  

 > As it stands, you are in record in here as stating that "too
 > many people vote".  As such, it's quite easy to come to the
 > conclusion as to how you will restrict those voters that you
 > don't like.

 TR> He's right. Far too many people vote in this country.

With an average 60% turnout rate?  Your real problem is that 
too many non-Republicans have the franchise.  


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