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Skriven 2008-03-18 23:52:00 av BOB KLAHN
     Kommentar till en text av EARL CROASMUN
Ärende: ANOTHER LIE EXPOSED...
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->> Notice the date on that article.  Saddam Hussein's ties to Al Qeda
->> have
->> been thoroughly debunked by the US gvt's own study on 9/11.
->>
->> What the hell are you trying to do? Introduce FACTS in here? You
->> irritate the conservatives here when you dare to do that.

 EC> Interesting that you would turn a discussion of facts into
 EC> a third-party insult attempt.

 Sheeeite... you do that all the time.

 EC> I introduced facts.  Danny attempted to introduce facts.
 EC> He just got his wrong.  The 9/11 Commission found ties
 EC> between Al Qaeda and Iraq.

 Or did he mean the newly released study? The one that went much
 deeper and had all those captured documents?

 EC> It also said it found no
 EC> evidence that the two had in the past cooperated on any
 EC> attacks against the United States.  That is quite different
 EC> from saying "no ties."

 Yeah, that took more evidence.

 EC> Commissioner Lee Hamilton, for example: "I must say I have
 EC> trouble understanding the flap over this. The Vice
 EC> President is saying, I think, that there were connections
 EC> between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein's government. We don't
 EC> disagree with that."

 Which is his opinion, and an out of date one.

 EC> Commissioner Tom Kean: "There were contacts between Iraq
 EC> and al-Qaeda, a number of them, some of them a little
 EC> shadowy. They were definitely there."

 Contacts? Well, I heard of Saddam being asked, back channel, to
 train Al Qaeda operatives, and refusing.

 GW Bush has probably had closer contacts to Bin Laden.

 EC> In any event, his inaccurate allusion is irrelevant to the
 EC> point made in the London Telegraph article on Abu Nidal.
 EC> From the same article:

 EC> "It now transpires that Saddam was hoping to take advantage
 EC> of Abu Nidal's presence in Baghdad to persuade him to use
 EC> his considerable expertise in terrorist techniques to train
 EC> al-Qa'eda fighters.

 It transpires? By whose report? Saddam shows not ties to Al
 Qaeda in the latest report, why would he have wanted them
 trained by Iraqi forces?

 EC> Abu Nidal worked closely with Saddam during the late 1970s
 EC> and early 1980s to carry out a number of terrorist outrages
 EC> in the Middle East and Europe, including the attempted
 EC> assassination of the Israeli ambassador to London in 1982.

 Was that when Cheney shook his hand? There was no Al Qaeda in
 any of that time.

 EC> In recent years, Abu Nidal, who has been ill for many
 EC> years, had scaled down his terror operations.

 EC> With the prospect increasing of the US launching a military
 EC> campaign to overthrow Saddam, however, the Iraqi dictator
 EC> was keen to combine Abu Nidal's expertise with the
 EC> enthusiasm of al-Qa'eda's fanatical fighters to launch a
 EC> fresh wave of terror attacks. In this way, Saddam hoped to
 EC> disrupt Washington's plans to overthrow him."

 Did he? Why don't we see that in the pentagon report? Could it
 be the administration made it up?

 EC> Note that this was AFTER 9/11.  Another one of those facts.
 EC>  Do they irritate you?

 But before 2008. Do those facts irritate you?

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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