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Skriven 2008-03-27 20:14:00 av Bob Klahn (1:124/311)
Ärende: Lies from Ann C/Tim R
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 First lie: Or first lie I care to address:

 TR> Similarly, John Kerry's claim to heroism in Vietnam was
 TR> contradicted by 264 Swift Boat Veterans who served with
 TR> him.

 Lie! There were something like 264 members of the Smearboat
 liars, but only a handful actualy served with Kerry, and maybe
 half a dozen challenged his military record. Of those, several
 were among those who submitted him for his medals. One was a
 doctor who lied about treating Kerry. And one was an officer who
 claimed they were not under fire when his own citation for the
 Bronze star stated they were, as did the one for his boat
 chief, who got his bronze star for saving that officer's life.

 If you read the claims of those who supposedly challenged
 Kerry's medals, their affidavits are weasel worded so as to not
 qualify as perjury, without actually admitting they had nothing
 to say.

 There were something like 3000 swift boat vets from the Vietnam
 war, fewer than 300 were listed on the smearboat liars roster,
 and some of them said they never joined.

 TR> His claim to having been on a secret mission to
 TR> Cambodia for President Nixon on Christmas 1968 was

 He never said it was a mission for President Nixon, and it was
 Christmas eve, not Christmas day.

 TR> contradicted not only by all of his commanders -- who said
 TR> he would have been court-martialed if he had gone anywhere
 TR> near Cambodia --

 Which was a lie. His main accuser, O'Neil, claimed he had been
 in Cambodia, until he got caught accusing Kerry, when he
 switched to saying he had been in the area. Only he said it *TO*
 President Nixon.

 TR> but also the simple fact that Nixon wasn't
 TR> president on Christmas 1968.

 He was President elect then, though. However, as above, that was
 a lie by Ann C/Tim R.

 TR> In Hillary's defense, she probably deserves a Purple Heart
 TR> about as much as Kerry did for his service in Vietnam.

 Kerry went into battle, he was wounded, he got the purple heart
 that goes with a wound. Ask Bob Dole.

 TR> And for purposes of her race against matinee idol B.
 TR> Hussein Obama, Hillary has become the media's honorary
 TR> Republican.

 Ok, that one I will use.

 TR> Liberals are even using the Slick Willy defense when Obama
 TR> is caught fraternizing with a racist loon. When Bill
 TR> Clinton was exposed as a philandering, adulterous,
 TR> pathological liar, his defenders said that everybody is a
 TR> philandering, adulterous, pathological liar.

 Another lie by Ann C/Tim R.

 Oh, and no one has yet shown were Bill Clinton lied about that.

 TR> And now, when B. Hussein Obama is caught in a 20-year
 TR> relationship with a raving racist, his defenders scream
 TR> that everybody is a racist wack-job.

 Since that entire line is a lie, nuff said.

 TR> In the Obama speech on race that Chris Matthews deemed
 TR> "worthy of Abraham Lincoln," B. Hussein Obama defended
 TR> Wright's anti-American statements, saying:

 Ann C/Tim R should look again. Wright may have spoken more
 plainly, but no more anti-American than a lot of right wing
 religious types.

 TR> "For the men and women of Rev. Wright's generation, the
 TR> memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone
 TR> away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years.
 TR> That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of
 TR> white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice
 TR> in the barbershop or around the kitchen table."

 Sounds like Huckabee understood it. He offered a similar take.

 TR> Second, Rev. Wright's world wasn't segregated.

 Lie. This entire country was segregated, except for maybe small
 areas. Chicago certainly was.

 TR> He denounces
 TR> Zionism and calls for divestment from Israel.

 There are Jews in Israel who say much the same.

 TR> Obama's church awarded Farrakhan the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright
 TR> Jr. Trumpeter Award, saying Farrakhan "truly epitomized
 TR> greatness."

 No, a magazine founded by Wright did that, and an editor at the
 magazine said that.

 TR> Will liberals contend that these remarks were "taken out of
 TR> context"?

 Obviously they were, but Ann C/Tim R.

 TR> Maybe Wright's church was trying to say that
 TR> Farrakhan isn't great when it said he "epitomized
 TR> greatness." Who knows? We weren't there.

 And Wright's church did not say that.


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