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Skriven 2008-08-27 12:14:00 av Bob Klahn (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Richard Webb
Ärende: Edwards
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 RW>>> children. SOmeone being victimized as HIll alleges would
 RW>>> have been as poised and together as she sounded during
 RW>>> those hearings, and wouldn't have waited until the last
 RW>>> possible minute to come forward.

 BK>>> AAMOF, that would not be at all out of character. I have
 BK>>> learned of a lot of female friends who were abused, and
 BK>>> most it took a long time to come out, and they were
 BK>>> reluctant to discuss it. I suspect a lot more women have
 BK>>> been abused than we know of. And many were as adults.

 RW> wOuld agree with that.  IT always takes awhile.  aS I said,
 RW> I seem to have a larger percentage of female friends than
 RW> average who were.  sOme very close to me in fact.

 RW>> YEs, but when most I know of do discuss such situations
 RW>> they're usually not so poised and altogether together if
 RW>> you catch my drift. even otherwise articulate people when
 RW>> discussing such experiences know they need to talk about it
 RW>> for whatever reason but are not really happy about doing
 RW>> so. IT didn't ring true with me.

BK>>  Don't forget a couple important items. She was not seeking
BK>>  comfort from a friend, but testifying before the senate. She is  a
BK>> lawyer, and she had years to adjust to it. Above all, she was  not
BK>> physically abused, but harrassed. It does make a difference.

 RW> even so it's still a traumatic experience for many.  YEs
 RW> the training as a lawyer might be of some use when
 RW> presenting oneself for purpose of testimony before congress.

 And, again, the women you were talking to were likely letting it
 out for the first time, to a friend. She was testifying before
 Congress, and she probably told the whole story to those who
 called her before Congress. So this was not the first time for
 her.

 RW> <snippage>

BK>>>>  She passed a polygraph, Thomas refused to take one.

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 RW> Was reading something on this very subject the other day,
 RW> and itt stated that those close to us are pretty good lie
 RW> detectors.  Anybody who's ever attempted lying to a parent
 RW> sibling or spouse knows what I"m saying here.  still, feel
 RW> the need to do it often enough, and frequent enough, and
 RW> the liar gets practiced at controlling the darting eyes, the
 RW> high pulse rate, all the signs that manifest themselves on
 RW> the polygraph, and by other signs, i.e. change in voice,
 RW> change in manner.

 That may be true, it is *possible* to have such control, but
 there is no evidence she did. That and the other two women who
 were ready to testify adds to her credibility.

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 RW>> observation as they result in secondary signs.  SOme people
 RW>> learn to lie convincingly young.

BK>>  There is no evidence that she had. If there was you can be sure
BK>> the right wing would have revealed it long ago.

 RW> We can agree on that point.  tIs doable however.

 RW> <snippage>

 BK>>>>  How many black people growing up back then did?

 RW>>> A good number of course.

BK>>>  A good number had an easy childhood?

 RW>> Oops, pre-coffee, quite the opposite in fact.  I should
 RW>> know better than to compose echomail pre-coffee <g>.

BK>>  Best to have it on the side desk when echomailing. Not by the
BK>> computer, I've had to stop to clean up all too often. But the  side
BK>> desk doesn't have that problem near as often.

 RW> Yah, why I have a side table here for such items as ash
 RW> tray and liquids <g>.

 I started this packet without my coffee. Had to stop to make
 some.

 Where I work they have instituted a rule against coffee outside
 the coffee shop. None in our shop. How do they expect us to
 program? Don't they know what programming is? See the tagline.



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