Text 7858, 67 rader
Skriven 2008-10-10 12:17:34 av Earl Croasmun (1:124/311)
     Kommentar till en text av Dan Ceppa
Ärende: RE: Commom Ground
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~>  ~> It's only accurate if you buy the lies that the McCain campaign 
~>  ~> is spewing. 
 
~>  EC> The only thing the campaign said about the matter was that they paid
~>  EC> the license fee!  YOU said that my point was only accurate if I "buy"
~>  EC> the campaign's "lies" [plural!].  Now you say that it is not a lie! 
 
~> Earl, there is quite a difference between playing the song and 
~> using the song as a campaign theme.  

A meaningless distinction in this context, and it is obviously irrelevant
to your claim that the campaign had "lied."  When most people quote lines
from a thread, they do it to continue the point one step further.  You seem
to quote randomly, and then offer irrelevant comments.  I would once again
direct you to the ASCAP website: ""Blanket license" is a license which
allows the music user to perform any or all of over 8.5 million songs in
the ASCAP repertory as much or as little as they like. Licensees pay an
annual fee for the license. The blanket license saves music users the
paperwork, trouble and expense of finding and negotiating licenses with all
of the copyright owners of the works that might be used during a year and
helps prevent the user from even inadvertently infringing on the copyrights
of ASCAP's members and the many foreign writers whose music is licensed by
ASCAP in the U.S."

 ~> ASCAP has nothing at all to do with the actual ownership rights.  Those 
 ~> are retained by other parties.  In the case if _Barracuda_, those 
 ~> rights still belomg to Heart. thought they are admo\instrated bu 
 ~> Universal Music.  

~>  EC> ASCAP does not "own" the song, but
~>  EC> the group passed that option of approval/disapproval
~>  EC> or individual uses to ASCAP when they turned over
~>  EC> distribution and collection to it.  ASCAP has an easily searchable
~>  EC> database, so you should have no problem finding that the song IS in
~>  EC> the database.
 
~> Get it through your head:  ASCAP only administers the the collection 
~> of copyrights for the limited basis of general play.  They do 
~> not have the rights to license songs for advertisement purposes, among 
~> others.  

ANOTHER laughably random comment!  They play the song at rallies!  When did
the campaign use it in an AD!!!
~>  EC> Authors, and Publishers, meaning that any entity that is licensed with
~>  EC> ASCAP can play a song without getting the artist's explicit
~>  EC> permission."  Is there any word or phrase in all that which you don't
~>  EC> understand yet? 
 
~> It's what you do not understand.  Making it part of the McCain campaign 
~> as a theme song goes betound the rights that ASCAP has available to it.  

If the group's lawyer was dumb enough to believe such nonsense, there would
have been a lawsuit two weeks ago.  And if you could offer a single bit of
substantiation for the nonsense, you would have done so two weeks ago.

~>  ~> Try getting this straight:  Thought McCain got the right to play 
~>  ~> the song from ASCAP, Heart has the right to remove it from their 
~>  ~> purchased playlist.  
 
~>  EC> If you could prove that, you would have WEEKS AGO.
 
~> Scream "Is not!" louder, Earl. 

Like I said, if you could prove that, you would have WEEKS AGO.
 
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