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Skriven 2001-09-14 07:23:00 av peter karlsson (2:204/254.222)
Ärende: Terrorattacken mot USA
==============================
The Guardian skrev en väldigt intressant analys, som jag kopierar in hit för de
av er som inte orkar plocka fram en vävläsare:

[http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,551036,00.html]

   They can't see why they are hated
   Americans cannot ignore what their government does abroad
   Special report: Terrorism in the US
   Seumas Milne
   Thursday September 13, 2001
   The Guardian

   Nearly two days after the horrific suicide attacks on civilian workers in
New York and Washington, it has become painfully clear that most Americans
simply don't get it. From the president to passersby on the streets, the
message seems to be the same: this is an inexplicable assault on freedom and
democracy, which must be answered with overwhelming force - just as soon as
someone can construct a credible account of who was actually responsible.

   Shock, rage and grief there has been aplenty. But any glimmer of recognition
of why people might have been driven to carry out such atrocities, sacrificing
their own lives in the process - or why the United States is hated with such
bitterness, not only in Arab and Muslim countries, but across the developing
world - seems almost entirely absent. Perhaps it is too much to hope that, as
rescue workers struggle to pull firefighters from the rubble, any but a small
minority might make the connection between what has been visited upon them and
what their government has visited upon large parts of the world.

   But make that connection they must, if such tragedies are not to be
repeated, potentially with even more devastating consequences. US political
leaders are doing their people no favours by reinforcing popular ignorance with
self-referential rhetoric. And the echoing chorus of Tony Blair, whose
determination to bind Britain ever closer to US foreign policy ratchets up the
threat to our own cities, will only fuel anti-western sentiment. So will calls
for the defence of "civilisation", with its overtones of Samuel Huntington's
poisonous theories of post-cold war confrontation between the west and Islam,
heightening perceptions of racism and hypocrisy.

   As Mahatma Gandhi famously remarked when asked his opinion of western
civilisation, it would be a good idea. Since George Bush's father inaugurated
his new world order a decade ago, the US, supported by its British ally,
bestrides the world like a colossus. Unconstrained by any superpower rival or
system of global governance, the US giant has rewritten the global financial
and trading system in its own interest; ripped up a string of treaties it finds
inconvenient; sent troops to every corner of the globe; bombed Afghanistan,
Sudan, Yugoslavia and Iraq without troubling the United Nations; maintained a
string of murderous embargos against recalcitrant regimes; and recklessly
thrown its weight behind Israel's 34-year illegal military occupation of the
West Bank and Gaza as the Palestinian intifada rages.

   If, as yesterday's Wall Street Journal insisted, the east coast carnage was
the fruit of the Clinton administration's Munich-like appeasement of the
Palestinians, the mind boggles as to what US Republicans imagine to be a
Churchillian response.

   It is this record of unabashed national egotism and arrogance that drives
anti-Americanism among swaths of the world's population, for whom there is
little democracy in the current distribution of global wealth and power. If it
turns out that Tuesday's attacks were the work of Osama bin Laden's supporters,
the sense that the Americans are once again reaping a dragons' teeth harvest
they themselves sowed will be overwhelming.

   It was the Americans, after all, who poured resources into the 1980s war
against the Soviet-backed regime in Kabul, at a time when girls could go to
school and women to work. Bin Laden and his mojahedin were armed and trained by
the CIA and MI6, as Afghanistan was turned into a wasteland and its communist
leader Najibullah left hanging from a Kabul lamp post with his genitals stuffed
in his mouth.

   But by then Bin Laden had turned against his American sponsors, while
US-sponsored Pakistani intelligence had spawned the grotesque Taliban now
protecting him. To punish its wayward Afghan offspring, the US subsequently
forced through a sanctions regime which has helped push 4m to the brink of
starvation, according to the latest UN figures, while Afghan refugees fan out
across the world.

   All this must doubtless seem remote to Americans desperately searching the
debris of what is expected to be the largest-ever massacre on US soil - as must
the killings of yet more Palestinians in the West Bank yesterday, or even the
2m estimated to have died in Congo's wars since the overthrow of the US-backed
Mobutu regime. "What could some political thing have to do with blowing up
office buildings during working hours?" one bewildered New Yorker asked
yesterday.

   Already, the Bush administration is assembling an international coalition
for an Israeli-style war against terrorism, as if such counter-productive acts
of outrage had an existence separate from the social conditions out of which
they arise. But for every "terror network" that is rooted out, another will
emerge - until the injustices and inequalities that produce them are addressed.

Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2001
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