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Skriven 2006-04-29 19:31:06 av James Bradley (1:134/77.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Ardith Hinton
Ärende: A Different Drummer...
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Ardith Hinton wrote James Bradley on 04-27-06 23:36


 JB>  Wind in the hair, seat of the pants...


 AH>           Definitely SP!  Don't worry, it gets
 AH> easier with practice....  ;-)

They were different degrees of the same mindset, so I think I'm looking to
complicate the system, where the system tries to simplify how a person
approaches obstacles. <?>

I'm not positive, but I believe your accounts might have contradicted your
earlier statements. It's likely not large, but if you neglect a "n't" on "can",
then I'm back to square one more confused than ever. (Now I know how others
feel trying to read me.) Chances are also good, that I'm just not getting it.

 JB>  I'm sure you noticed my confusion with the A-type
 JB>  personality.


 AH>           I was somewhat baffled by your
 AH> explanation initially.  The theory of
 AH> temperament isn't exactly the same, but I'm
 AH> beginning to see how the two might be

Maybe, the net result of a learning style is likely to produce a personality
type, but it has dawned on me to differentiate the two. My misunderstanding,
how you were equating the letter designation, I automatically attached the
personality type letter designation, and suspected you were introducing me to
an extension, or a subset to that. 

 AH> complementary.  To paraphrase a poem by Rudyard
 AH> Kipling... "If you can fill the unforgiving
 AH> minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance
 AH> run, you may well be an SJ!"  You've alluded to
 AH> the folks who scurry around with a coffee cup in
 AH> one hand & a cell phone in the other (as I
 AH> have).  If they're doing it because they enjoy
 AH> the adrenaline rush and/or if they appear to be
 AH> making plans on the spur of the moment they're
 AH> probably not SJ. Workaholic perfectionists are
 AH> the classic "heart attack" personalities... the
 AH> type I've seen referred to as type "A".  They're
 AH> more likely to spend long hours at a desk job &
 AH> avoid using cell phones.  "B" people go with the

A-type would avoid cell phones?

 AH> flow & take time to smell the flowers, which I
 AH> imagine comes more easily to those with a strong
 AH> "perception" component.  When Nora was a baby I
 AH> cracked up the New Mothers' Group by saying "I'm
 AH> learning to be a Type 'B' person".  As a
 AH> teacher, I was ruled by the clock & the
 AH> calendar. As a parent, however, I soon had to
 AH> learn to function on Toddler Time....  :-)

L!!! Ya, I've made a conscious effort to become more "A", but my mistake was to
do so, while firmly denying I was in pain. Now that I know what's what, I'm
*still* running myself raged. (I know, you expected no less from me. B-)

 JB>  Likewise, it's a sliding scale, isn't it?


 AH>           In the sense that it's a continuum,
 AH> yes.  I exaggerate SJ & SP in my descriptions
 AH> for educational purposes.  Some people really
 AH> are that extreme... others are more of a
 AH> mixture.  I'll catch myself doing something, for
 AH> example, and say "Hmm... that's my SJ.  Is that
 AH> what I want to do, or is it something I think I
 AH> should do because my parents or my teachers said
 AH> so?"  If I'm aware of what reasoning style I'm
 AH> using I can change mental gears as necessary....
 AH>  :-)

My notes migrated to another room, so I'll just go with what I know. I was
getting the impression that a sensory invoked person would only be a subset of
a judgment, not either. Now, I take it this is not the case? 


 JB>  The soft spoken fella, said very quietly, "No, I can not
 JB>  climb with him any more. I don't want to talk about it."


 AH>           Perhaps the "cowboy" lacked a sense of
 AH> responsibility, which is most often associated
 AH> with "J" people.  IMHO a certain amount of it is

See, my intuition is telling me to think the opposite. This one, is so
ingrained that a "judge" is one pinnacle of a person, beyond reproach.

 AH> desirable... especially in a hiking or climbing
 AH> companion.  Where it may be irritating to a "P"
 AH> person is where it is experienced as "the
 AH> tyranny of the shoulds".

I'm sure that exact thing happened in my mother's car today. I was getting
nervous, because there were too many "should have"s. As she pulled up to pick
me up, the driver behind her was verbally expressing his upset too, so I should
have (There it is again! |-) driven my own car.

 AH>           The difference between "J" and "P"
 AH> appears to be the factor which is most likely to
 AH> lead to conflict.  And while almost everyone has
 AH> some intuitive ability, it does complicate the
 AH> picture.  Three quarters of the population are
 AH> predominantly SJ or SP... so they're easier for
 AH> the beginner to identify.  :-)

Talk down to me, why don't you. <L>


 AH>           Kerouac, the "beatnik" poet??

That's what I meant to say. <Sheepish>

 AH> According to this theory the majority of such
 AH> people were SP's... and so are a lot of
 AH> professional entertainers.  If you don't know
 AH> where your next meal is coming from you may be
 AH> an SP....  :-)))

I read this, as I stuffed my face... It comes from Taco Bell, of course. <G>

Point taken though, as I have leftover chicken in the fridge, but the rest of
the meal could go any number of ways.

 JB>  And then there's the `fusion' bagpipe player, or one

 AH>           That's very much the sort of thing
 AH> Peter Schickele does with his PDQ Bach comedy

Right, but my thrust was to how a person can be traditional, yet fuse it with a
modern bent.

 AH> routines.  In one of these, the bagpipe player
 AH> emits a pedal tone. I'd been wondering how he
 AH> did it.  Then one of my band students offered to
 AH> let me use his chanter... and told me to blow
 AH> gently.  Voila!  I got the same note on the
 AH> first try.  I was thrilled because I'd found the
 AH> answer to my question. My student was upset
 AH> because I hadn't followed the correct
 AH> procedure....  :-))


Huh? "Pedal tone" "Correct procedure"

... James
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