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Skriven 2004-12-08 13:03:00 av Tony Underwood (1:278/230)
Ärende: "Kir'Shara"
===================


At 12:30 hours 12/08/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>"Kevin Karmann" <kevin@bbsworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>As we reach the end of this arc, it's time to put the whole thing into
>>perspective.  But if you haven't seen "Kir'Shara" yet, much of the below
>>will spoil your experience.  It logical to avoid such details.
>>
>>SPOILER
>>
>>WARNING!
>>
>>If
>>
>>you
>>
>>want
>>
>>to
>>
>>delve
>>
>>into
>>
>>the
>>
>>artifact
>>
>>of
>>
>>Kir'Shara,
>>
>>start
>>
>>reading
>>
>>now!
>>
>>
>>humans, I can't see how Archer could possibly stand up to the Vulcans
>>attacking him as he did in this scene.  I suppose one could argue that
>>Surak's katra may have given him some help, but the pure physical demands
>>had to weigh heavily against him.
>
>They did I'm sure, but I believe we are meant to believe that Surak's
>katra was giving him the skills of advanced fighting techniques, and
>allowing his body to run on adrenalin. It would have been a nice touch
>if they had shown Archer collapsing in exhaustion after the crisis was
>averted.


This was the first thing I noticed as soon as Archer went after them.    He
seemed pretty spry for a Human on Vulcan...  and we all recall how poorly
Kirk fared against Spock during "Amok Time", yet Archer not only seemed
unaffected, he kicked Vulcan ass, which flies in the face of logic  (no
pun).    

After the burst of energy expenditure, I'd have expected him to flop onto
the ground and wheeze.   


Then again, earlier on in the episode, he was giving T'Pol some minor grief
about her not being able to keep up with him...  her, a Vulcan on her home
world and he, a Human on a  hot dry thin-air planet which would leave him
fatigued in short order.    Katra or not, Archer's physical framework would
be suffering bigtime.     


>>sequence is very interesting, as we can't see Koss' real motivations.  On

There MUST be something else afoot here.   He's already demonstrated that
he's devious...  now he's being "nice"...?   It may well be that he simply
wants to cover his tracks and make sure T'Pol is "unavailable" so as to not
have to answer some relatively tacky questions which might arise,
considering how T'Less had been mysteriously reinstated at the same time
Koss out of the blue married T'Pol.    

We've not heard the last of that one, I bet.      


>>the surface, it seems to be a nice gesture.  However, given his family's
>>status in Vulcan society, it is quite possible that T'Pol helping the
>>Syrrannites makes her something of a pariah to those groups.  

That too.   Not to mention the "defection" of T'Less after having been
reinstated.   With T'Less gone, T'Pol remains "in evidence" and perhaps
it's best if she were aboard some "outworlder" vessel somewhere and not
"available" to answer embarrassing questions regarding some former Council
aids...?   

>>Or maybe
>>there's even more to Koss than that, allowing him to pop up at some point in
>>the future.
>
>Koss doesn't strike me as someone that would do something out of the
>goodness of his heart.  

He's up to something.    If the writers are as good as they've seemed to
have been so far, there's more depth to details like this; I'd expect that
they would have more in store for Koss.   

>I think the pariah theory is a good one.  As
>to whether we see him again, that's up to the writers.  He is a
>character they could choose to use again, if they want.

I'd bet on it.   There's lots of Vulcan dealings to cover, such as the
"enlightened" viewpoint that Vulcan is now supposedly going to cast upon
Humankind.   Things like this don't happen overnight; there remains that
other contingent of the council which supported V'Lass, who's also still
running around loose.   

Koss and Co. are suspect... and as such, they're liable to be up to
something we haven't seen yet.   

>
>>Chief among them, I think, would have to be Connor Trinnear's stepping into
>>the spotlight as Trip.  He made a real good impression in his interactions
>>as temporary captain in these three episodes.  It is always good to see
>
>Agreed.  It would also be nice if reference was made later by Archer
>as to what a great job Trip did as acting captain.

I mentioned something about this earlier.   Trip was in the middle of the
thick of things and he did everything by "the numbers".    He deserves some
of the credit for the success of the operations leading up to Archer's
delivering the  Kir'Shara to the council.   His dealings with the Andorians
also were handled well... someone else may well have thrown the Andorians
to the wolves when the Vulcans showed up.    

>>the years, Gary Graham's Soval has received a lot of negative reactions from
>>fans,   

I never thought he was doing a bad job...  I thought his particular Vulcan
ambassador was a tad bit cold-blooded and overly suspicious about
everything, hardly what we'd have expected from Vulcans.   Perhaps it's
more a matter of his station, rather than his personal demeanor, which
guided/demonstrated Soval's severe disdain and coldness.    

>>but I think his performance these past few weeks should turn around
>>here.  Of greatest significance has to be the torture sequence.  I really
>>like how his eyes darted about when his emotional threshold began to lower.

....and his opinion of Andorians sorta popped out as well.   He said some
things a Vulcan wouldn't have said otherwise... ;)   


>Was the negativity regarding Soval as a character, or Graham's acting.

I tend to think Graham's acting reflected the character as intended.
Soval was intended to be a bit severe and not very likeable... until later,
once the character had been developed a bit.   Note that Soval, over the
last several episodes, had slowly been opening up and leaning in a
different direction... as well as letting slip bits and pieces of info
about the council and those running it.   

>I had a negative opinion of the character, but Graham has always done
>a good job of acting IMO.  Like most everyone else, I like Soval much
>more now than I did before.

One gets the opinion that Soval is now demonstrating his true colors...
but was not allowed such privilege previously.    His station prohibited
such.    

>>and the bridge shaking.  The good news is that, in some respects, the
>>tension showing up on the bridge crew, through looks and awkward silences,
>>actually brings more atmosphere to the episode than seeing ships being blown
>>apart.

This is a TOS sort of thing...  the way the bridge crew would look around
at one another.    You could almost tell what they were thinking.   


>Like ST-II, sometimes cutting a budget can result in better drama and
>storylines, as the production crew compensates for less money.

Or, maybe it's just that they now have better material to work with... and
no more Braga hanging over their necks.    

>>the series as a whole.  Truth be told, this is probably the best or better
>>than any explanation we could have expected for the differences between
>>Vulcans in the early years of ENTERPRISE versus the other Trek series.
>
>Agreed.

And it was well done, which helps reinitiate a little faith and credibility
in Trek today.    ENT has begun coming into its own, finally.   

>>Hopefully, this trend will continue into January when the series returns
>>from reruns.
>
>I've heard that Enterprise will also be explaining the difference in
>the Klingons between TOS and the later series.


THAT's gonna be an interesting storyline.    



tony..  

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