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Press Briefing by Scott McClellan
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
November 17, 2004

Press Briefing by Scott McClellan
The James S. Brady Press Briefing Room

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12:38 P.M. EST

MR. McCLELLAN: Good afternoon, everybody. I want to begin with one
announcement. The President today is announcing his intention to appoint
Harriet Miers to be Counsel to the President. She will fill the position
held by Judge Gonzales once he is confirmed by the Senate.

The following is a statement by the President: "Harriet Miers is a trusted
advisor on whom I've long relied for straightforward advice. Harriet has
the keen judgment and discerning intellect necessary to be an outstanding
counsel. She is a talented lawyer whose great integrity, legal scholarship
and grace have long marked her as one of America's finest lawyers. I have
deep respect for Harriet and look forward to her continued counsel in this
new role."

And that's all I have to begin with, so I will go straight to questions.

Q A question for you on the President's appointment of Margaret Spellings
for education. She is a strong advocate of abstinence-only programs for sex
education in schools. Is there something to be said for a program that also
teaches contraception in case children were to fall off the abstinence
wagon, they would know how to arm themselves --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, first of all, I think she's a strong advocate for the
President's agenda, as are other members of this team. And she is someone
the President, as you heard him say, has full trust in her abilities.

In terms of that question, I think if you looked at what we have pursued,
we have said that funding for abstinence education at least -- ought to be
on at least equal footing with other education programs. And so that's what
we've pursued in this administration.

Q She has said that she believes the message we should be sending to
children in middle and high school is one of abstinence, and abstinence
only.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, it's something the President has long talked about,
and it's a -- there are some efforts that are proven to work and send the
right message to our children. And so that's something the President has
talked about, going back to his days as governor.

Q But if you try to reduce teenage pregnancies and everything else that the
President is trying to reduce, is it not worthwhile to talk to children and
teach them about contraception, in case in some occasion --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, there are programs there, John. That's why I said that
funding ought to be at least on the same level as other programs.

Q Right, but she's an advocate of, again, programs that teach only
abstinence and not about contraception.

MR. McCLELLAN: The President is an advocate of abstinence education
programs because he wants to focus on what works. And we know that they
have proven results of working to teach -- send the right message to our
children.

Q Let me ask you more simply; what's the problem of teaching abstinence and
contraception, just as a method of teaching these kids what's available out
there just in case --

MR. McCLELLAN: I think we've answered this question; I think I've been
through it. And the President's views are very clear on it, as well -- I
just expressed them.

Q Yes, but I just asked you the question about is there not value in
teaching both?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, go back and look at what we've said on this matter and
what I just expressed.

Terry, go ahead.

Q I'm going to shift gears. President Putin has spoken to the Russian
military leadership and said that Russia will be testing new nuclear
missile systems which, he said, "will be the systems of the kind that other
nuclear powers do not and will not have in the near future." What is the
administration's assessment of what he's talking about? And isn't that a
rather threatening thing to say?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think that our view is that this is not something
that we look at as new. We are very well aware of their longstanding
modernization efforts for their military. I might point out that we have a
very good relationship with Russia. The President and President Putin have
worked very closely together to establish that relationship. And they have
worked together to move beyond some of the issues of the past and develop
an agreement to significantly reduce our nuclear arsenals. And that's, I
think, what is most important.

But I think -- what I took from these comments, it is something that they
have talked about before, and that's modernization of their military. We
are allies now in the global war on terrorism.

Q So modernization of the nuclear component of the military is okay with
this President?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, like I said, that it's something that -- we don't view
it as something that is new. It's something that we are well aware of, that
they were working on some modernization efforts for their military.

Q And it seems that one of the points of the modernization effort is to
evade missile defense systems, that that's one of the things that these new
missiles will be able to do. The President is okay with that? He doesn't --

MR. McCLELLAN: We have a very different relationship than we did during the
Cold War. And we are working together to significantly reduce our nuclear
arsenals. There is -- we both recognize the need to no longer have that
size of a nuclear arsenal, and that's what we're working together on to
reduce.

Q Can I ask a more general question, then? You said a couple of times that
there's a new relationship and a good relationship with the Russian
Federation and that President Bush specifically has a good relationship
with President Putin. What's it getting the United States if Putin is
crushing the free media, if he's not building down nuclear arsenals, but
building them up, and if he's opposing the United States --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, no, he's reducing nuclear arsenals. That's what we
agreed to do. But let me point out to you that the fact that we do have a
good relationship enables us to speak very directly to our Russian friends
about those issues. And the President has spoken directly to them about
areas when we have concerns, one of which you mentioned right at the top
there.

Q But this is not an area of concern?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, like I said, I checked here, and it was something that
was not viewed as new to us.

Go ahead, Jim.

Q What response do you have, what reaction do you have to the parts of the
memo that Director Goss sent to employees at the CIA?

MR. McCLELLAN: What's your question?

Q The question is, critics are suggesting that it means he's trying to tell
people at the CIA they have to fall in line with the President's policies,
though the memo also suggests the opposite, and I just wonder what the
reaction is here. Have you seen the memo? Has the President talked to --

MR. McCLELLAN: You're referring to an email -- I have seen the email, and
it says a lot more than what you just referred to, and I think what you
referred to is something that is misconstrued, first of all. The role of
the CIA is intelligence gathering, intelligence analysis, and intelligence
dissemination. It is to provide the policymakers with the best possible
intelligence; it's not to set policy. The role of the policymakers is not
to get involved in the intelligence side of things either. So, really, the
role of the CIA is to provide unvarnished facts and objective analysis to
the decision-makers. And I did read that email, and some people have
misconstrued exactly what it says, as you pointed out.

Q Now, what is your sense of why it was necessary to issue an email that
tells people that, we're in the business of supplying intelligence, not
deciding policy, which seems, on the face of it, to be a pretty obvious
statement?

MR. McCLELLAN: Right.

Q Why would the Director -- why did the Director feel it necessary to do
such a thing? Are there things that have happened in the past few weeks
that --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think a couple of reasons probably. One, you have a
Director in place who is committed to intelligence reform, and committed to
making sure we're doing everything we can to strengthen and improve our
intelligence-gathering capabilities. That's one of the main reasons the
President appointed Director Goss to that position. And in that respect,
you have someone who is determined to move forward on reform. And any time
you have reform, you have change.

And I think part of the reason he sent out the email, as he discussed in
it, was to let the personnel at the CIA know that he will keep them
apprised as changes are made. That was one of the things he talked about in
that email. And we have great confidence in his leadership abilities and
his ability to address these issues.

Q You said there was a second factor. Is there another factor?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I was saying I think the second part of the fact that
you have a new leader in place, number one, so he's sending an email to all
the personnel there. And, number two, that you have some changes that will
be made. I think that's to be expected when you have a new leader in place.

Q And Michael Scheuer, the man who wrote a book initially named only as
Anonymous, did give a number of interviews and has since given interviews
under his own name in which he was critical of administration policy on the
war on terrorism. Is that part of this and is there something bigger here
that points to the need to tell people at the CIA not to be thinking in a
political fashion?

MR. McCLELLAN: I mean, you might want to direct some of those questions to
the CIA. There are some rules and procedures that they have in place. And I
think he talked about some of those rules and procedures in his email, just
so everybody was clear about what they are and what to expect as they move
forward with a new Director of Central Intelligence in place.

Q But does the White House see that as part of the -- one of the
contributing factors here and the need to send out a memo to tell people
exactly what the policy is?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, again, there is a lot of -- we can go back to the
campaign -- there was a lot of media coverage from anonymous sources
talking about intelligence matters and talking about classified information
in some instances. I think information is classified for a reason,
particularly at the CIA; it goes to our national security interest. The CIA
has a vital role to play in our nation's security, and the men and women at
the CIA, the career officials over there are doing an outstanding job to
protect the American people. They work round the clock to make sure they're
doing everything they can to protect the American people.

Q So let me just clarify. You seem to be suggesting that there was a sense
that there was some leaks of information from the CIA that were -- that
became part of the political debate because they were critical of policy?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I'm just pointing out some of the facts from the
campaign period. When I looked at the email, I viewed it for the reasons
that I stated a minute ago, as to why he sent that out; because you have a
new director in place. There's some changes that are being made by that new
director, whether it comes to organization or personnel or other issues.

Q Why shouldn't people, though, see this as an effort to tell people at the
CIA, if you disagree, keep your mouth shut?

MR. McCLELLAN: That's not at all what he was saying. And if you look at the
email, he said what the direction from the President was to him when he
took over as the Director of Central Intelligence. He said the President's
direction was very clear: the intelligence community must do all it can to
keep Americans safe, both here and abroad. And we appreciate all the work
that the men and women of the CIA are doing. He also went in to say in that
email that: "We do not make policy, though we do inform those who make it.
We avoid political involvement, especially political partisanship." So you
have to look at the entire email. It's exactly what he said.

Certainly, one of the roles of the CIA is to help implement decisions once
they are made by the policymakers. Let me point to a recent example.
Afghanistan is a good example. The decision was made to go into Afghanistan
and remove the Taliban from power, and dismantle the al Qaeda network in
Afghanistan and take away their safe haven. And the CIA certainly played an
important role in carrying out some operations there once that decision was
made. It is also their role to make sure they provide the policymakers with
the best possible intelligence.

Q But does the President think that the CIA has worked at cross purposes
with this administration during the past four years?

MR. McCLELLAN: Like I said, David, all I can point back to is some of the
articles that came out, or the media coverage during the campaign. They
were from anonymous sources. I can't point to anybody in specific. I mean,
that's some of what your role is to do.

Q But enough of it was ample evidence to the President that there were
enough people within the CIA working at cross purposes?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I think Jim was asking a specific question about some
issues that came up during that time period.

Q I'm asking --

MR. McCLELLAN: But, no, the President has great appreciation for the job
that the men and women at the CIA do to help protect the American people.
They play a vital role in our nation's security.

Q But let me follow up on a point that Jim made. Particularly after what
seems to be a fairly egregious intelligence failure about weapons of mass
destruction in Iraq, what message does it send when the Republican -- the
new Republican head of the CIA tells people that we're here to support the
President? Does that not send a message --

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, he was not talking about advocacy one way or the
other, David. Let's be very clear on that matter. What he was talking about
is what their mission is. Their mission is to inform the policymakers.
Their role is to provide the unvarnished facts and the objective analysis
to the policymakers, so that the policymakers can make decisions that are
in the best interest of the American people.

And one of the things that you bring up is intelligence related to Iraq.
And one of the issues that the independent commission that the President
appointed and is meeting with later today, by the way, is looking at is the
intelligence related to Iraq so that we can make sure that our intelligence
community is providing the best possible intelligence to the
decision-makers.

Q So the President sees the CIA Director as restoring proper balance to the
CIA --

MR. McCLELLAN: Look, there are rules and procedures at all agencies. There
are rules and procedures at the CIA. I don't think it's my place to talk
about those. Those are set over past practice --

Q Does the President believe that Porter Goss is --

MR. McCLELLAN: -- and by the Director of Central Intelligence.

Q -- restoring balance, is he restoring a balanced --

MR. McCLELLAN: The President believes Director Goss is doing a great job in
working to implement important reforms and changes to make sure that the
policymakers are getting the best possible intelligence. There are two
distinct function in the executive branch, and I think that's how we should
look at this that we're talking about in this discussion. There is the
intelligence-gathering analysis and dissemination. And that is distinct
from the policymaking apparatus. It is not the role of the intelligence
community to set policy, and it is not the role of the policymakers to try
and influence the outcome of the intelligence. We want the facts from the
intelligence community.

Q What are some of those articles you're -- was one of them the missing
explosives --

MR. McCLELLAN: Look, I don't think I need to go and get into those
articles; everybody was there and covered those articles. I was just
pointing out a fact.

Q Do you think the articles were intended to try to throw the election
toward Kerry?

MR. McCLELLAN: I can't tell you that. I don't know where those articles
disseminated from, who the anonymous officials were.

Q Does the President believe that there were CIA leaks during the campaign
designed to help Senator Kerry and hurt his campaign?

MR. McCLELLAN: I can't speak to that. There were anonymous sources on some
issues that you bring up relating to intelligence and national security
matters. I don't know -- I don't know where those originated from, so I
can't speak to that. But what I can speak to is what we're working to do
and what our shared objective is, which is to protect the American people.

Q Al Jazeera in the Middle East is -- that Mrs. Margaret Hassan was
beheaded -- 30-year humanitarian worker. The question is that U.N. workers
and other innocent civilians are now afraid to work and go in Iraq. And al
Jazeera -- everything Saddam Hussein -- everything -- I'm sorry, this Osama
bin Laden or terrorists bring out all the tapes, al Jazeera is the only one
that show publicly and it seems to me that they have connection with the
terrorists and Osama bin Laden. So what message President has for the
civilians in Iraq and the future of U.N. workers?

MR. McCLELLAN: That a free and peaceful future is on its way. We're there
to help the Iraqi people realize that future.

I would point out that the international community joins together in
condemning that barbaric act in the strongest possible terms. It shows the
true nature of the terrorists. They have no regard for innocent civilian
life. She was there to provide help to the Iraqi people. She was an aid
worker who dedicated her life to helping the Iraqi people, helping those in
need in that country. And the terrorists and the Saddam loyalists who are
trying to derail the transition to a democratic and peaceful future will be
defeated. They are being defeated as we speak. We've seen what has happened
in Fallujah. We see the progress that is being made against those who are
trying to wreak violence in Mosul and other areas.

Q Just a little question. Are you still looking for Osama bin Laden?
Because -- on WTOP Radio 15 -- going on in Pakistan and according to the
News 15, they said that intelligence officials here and in Pakistan are
saying that -- and some of the top officials in the Musharraf government
are sympathizers to Osama bin Laden and they tip off whenever U.S. is about
to catch Osama bin Laden, they tip off him and then he runs away --

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, we are continuing to pursue him and he will be brought
to justice. We are also continuing to move forward on dismantling and
destroying the al Qaeda network, and we have made great progress over the
course of the last few years. But there is more to do. And we continue to
stay on the offensive. We also continue to work to advance freedom in the
world, because that's the way you'll ultimately defeat the ideology of
hatred that leads to terrorism.

Q Speaker Hastert earlier today said he was confident that the national
intelligence director would have full budget authority. Does the President
believe that that budget should remain classified, that budget figure?

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, I think we've expressed that previously in our
statements of administration policy, that we shouldn't be given up things
that our enemies could use against us. But the President is strongly
committed to passing intelligence reform as quickly as possible. He views
it as reform that builds upon the many steps we've already taken to better
protect the American people and prevent attacks from happening in the first
place. And we are working very closely with congressional leaders to pass a
bill that includes a strong national intelligence director.

Q Hastert said that was the sticking point. How close are you to that bill?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, the discussions continue. We believe there's progress
that has been made over the last few days, and we'll continue working
closely with members of Congress to get it done. I think Speaker Hastert
also, this morning, expressed that it was his intention to try to get it
done this week.

Go ahead, Connie.

Q A few Middle East questions. Do you have any comment on the fact that Al
Jazeera and the others are continually showing the footage of this Marine
incident in Fallujah, but they won't show the execution of Margaret Hassan,
claiming that that's too violent?

MR. McCLELLAN: Al Jazeera?

Q Yes, the discrepancy of the fact that anything bad that Americans do gets
lots of coverage --

MR. McCLELLAN: And we've expressed concern about Al Jazeera's coverage and
we continue to have some concerns that we've expressed.

Q A follow-up on that?

Q I have two more.

MR. McCLELLAN: Go ahead.

Q U.S. News have a very strong report on alleged cooperation between Syrian
and Iranian-sponsored terrorism, Hezbollah and so forth. Anything new on
Syria, on their cooperation or lack of cooperation on the anti-terrorism?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I don't have any current update beyond what we've said
recently.

Q And the last thing, the report today about the oil-for-food, U.N.
oil-for-food money going to pay terrorists --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, there's an investigation going on at the United
Nations. Congress is also looking into the matter. We look forward to
seeing the results of those investigations. It is a serious matter, and
hopefully the United Nations will continue to do everything they can to
also cooperate with the congressional investigation into this matter.

Go ahead, Les.

Q Scott, the Associated Press quotes Charles Hammon (sp), who is a senior
defense analyst with Janes Consultancy Group in Britain as saying this: In
a combat infantry soldier's training, he is always taught that his enemy is
most dangerous when he's severely wounded. "If the injured man makes even
the slightest move, in my estimation, they would be justified in shooting
him." And my question -- first of two -- does the President, as
Commander-in-Chief, agree or disagree, given the death of one of our
Marines this week by a booby-trapped insurgent's body?

MR. McCLELLAN: I think, Les, this is probably going to a question about a
matter that's under investigation, and we need to let that investigation
proceed. It's not appropriate for me to comment further on that matter.

Q Since one of the President's fellow guests at tomorrow's Clinton
festivities in Little Rock is Whoopie Goldberg, can you assure us that the
President will not be giving Bill Clinton a pardon for "pardongate"?

MR. McCLELLAN: Les, let me just say that the President and Mrs. Bush look
forward to attending the dedication ceremony tomorrow. It is -- it will be
a happy and historic occasion, and the President will be making some
remarks there. This is to honor President Clinton and his service to the
nation, and he -- and the President looks forward to attending that
dedication.

Mark, go ahead.

Q Scott, I just wanted to follow up. Does the President have any thoughts
about attending what is really shaping up as a Democratic jamboree?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think that all Presidents join together in tribute
to one of their own. And this is certainly a President that Americans came
to admire, and the President looks forward to being there to participate in
this dedication on a special occasion.

Q He was pretty effusive in his praise of President Clinton when he was
here for the painting unveiling. Is he likely to have similar remarks
tomorrow?

MR. McCLELLAN: You will hear more from the President. I think they will be
very kind words about this special time for him.

Q Kofi Annan, in September, he said that the war in Iraq is an illegal war.
If it's an illegal war, then the 100,000 who have died there, according to
the Johns Hopkins School, are victims of war crimes. Now, the President is
going to Canada later this year, and the largest circulation newspaper in
Canada yesterday wrote a column, printed a column titled "Should Canada
Indict Bush?" -- raising question of a war crimes prosecution. They have a
war crimes law in Canada. And I'm wondering, has the general counsel --

MR. McCLELLAN: Do you have a question, or is this just a statement of
opinion?

Q It's a question. Has the White House Counsel looked at the President's
legal exposure to a war crimes prosecution?

MR. McCLELLAN: Russ, I think that it's a ridiculous question that you bring
up. You were out on the Nader campaign, I think, at the time when this
issue came up, and we addressed it at that time. And I'm not going to go
back through it again.

Q I have a question about the deficit. After the election, there were
dozens of news stories quoting people on Wall Street saying, we really want
the President to do something serious about the deficit. He should at least
halve it. I'm wondering if the President saw those articles, and if he
intends in the next few weeks to send a concrete message to Wall Street
that he is serious about the deficit.

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, he is very serious about cutting the deficit. That's
why he outlined a plan in his budget to cut the deficit in half over the
next five years. And one of the key topics that was discussed this morning
in his breakfast with the bipartisan leaders was making sure that we hold
the line on spending, that we show fiscal discipline as we move forward on
the budget. We have a budget that we're still working to pass from this
year. The President urged them to get it done this week. And one of the key
messages he emphasized was fiscal responsibility. It's also something he
emphasized about the second term. As we move forward, we need to continue
to show fiscal discipline. The President is strongly committed to that
effort.

Paula, go ahead.

Q Back to deficit and cutting it in half over the next four or five years,
does the President still believe there's room in the budget to do that and
also make all the tax cuts permanent?

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes. In fact, it's in our budget.

Q And also, with respect to a report over the weekend that four former
heads of clandestine operations had offered to speak with Porter Goss on
their perspective as far as their own experience in the agency, the fact
that Porter Goss declined a meeting with them -- I know you said this
morning, well, that's a matter of management style and a question of
management, but isn't it actually a question of information-sharing? And I
thought one of the concerns in the past had been -- that there had not been
adequate information-sharing among the agencies. And is this sending a
message that he -- that perhaps Porter does not see the value of what they,
four former heads have to offer in their experiences?

MR. McCLELLAN: I didn't view it that way, and I think that the personnel
matters, you need to direct to the CIA. Those are decisions and matters
that they make.

Q It's information-sharing, it's not a personnel --

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I don't view it that -- I don't view it the same way
that you are in the way you characterize it.

Q What does the President hope to accomplish during his visit to Canada?
And will he address Parliament?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, the meeting was just -- or the visit was just
announced yesterday. The President looks forward to going to Canada. I
don't think we've worked out all the modalities of the visit. But the
President will be talking about this more soon, I'm sure. And we can talk
about it more, as well. But he looks forward to visiting with the Prime
Minister.

Q Do you consider -- or does the President consider this more a cosmetic,
friendly-type visit? Or are there specific objectives that they are looking
to take away --

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I think, he views it as a substantive discussion of
important priorities that we both share.

Q Scott, there's a sort of raft of stories out today suggesting that the
change in complexion of the second-term Cabinet is designed to the give the
President more affirmation than challenge from his Cabinet members. Is that
the intent?

MR. McCLELLAN: More -- I'm sorry more affirmation?

Q More affirmation of his initiatives than challenge from the Cabinet
members themselves. Is that the intent? Are these simply the most talented
people the President could find? Or was he making --

MR. McCLELLAN: His intent is to put the best person in each of these
positions. And I think we discussed some of this yesterday in terms of how
the President views the Cabinet and their role in the administration. The
President talked about at this press conference about the type of people he
looks for in his team. And he talked about how it was important that he has
strong-minded people with broad experience who will come in and tell him
what he needs to know, whether it's something that's positive or something
that's negative. He wants to hear all sides of issues. And that's the best
way to make decisions. And he talked about that in his press conference
right after the election.

Q I wanted to follow up on Connie's question about the Fallujah incident.
She mentioned Al Jazeera and their editorial policy, but I'd like to point
out that MSNBC has been running that footage four times an

hour for the last two days. Now, is the administration or the Pentagon
reconsidering embedding reporters with American troops?

MR. McCLELLAN: Considering what?

Q Reconsidering the policy of embedding --

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know of any -- no, I don't know of any change.
That's a Department of Defense decision.

Q How can American troops be expected to make life-and-death decisions when
they have to worry about the camera that's at their back, portraying them
to the world and the American public as somehow committing some kind of
wrongdoing there?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I think generally speaking, journalists understand the
importance of what is going on, and they are careful about the way they
proceed in reporting the news when there are ongoing operations. So that's
a general comment. I can't speak to every specific incident, but the
military worked very carefully with the media in carrying out this policy
of including reporters in some of those operations that they carry out.

Go ahead, Sarah.

Q Thank you. Scott, Secretary Rumsfeld is concerned about security and the
financing of terrorist organization in the Americas. Will these issues be
discussed on the President's South American trip?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, security is something that will be on the agenda at
APEC. You're going to have a briefing here very shortly talking about the
upcoming meetings. The President will be traveling there to demonstrate our
strong commitment to engagement with the Asia-Pacific region. APEC
represents nearly half of the world's population; 60 percent of world GDP,
and nearly half of world trade. The President looks forward to going there
and working with other leaders on concrete steps that we can take to
accelerate trade liberalization and trade facilitation in order to move to
the goals of APEC, which call for free and open trade in the region.

On the security front, we also are going to work to build on the
commitments made last year in the Bangkok goals, to take specific actions
to dismantle terrorist groups, eliminate the danger of weapons of mass
destruction, and confront other direct security threats to the economies of
the region. So that is an important part of the agenda. And obviously,
he'll have some bilateral meetings that our briefers will be discussing
here shortly, as well.

Thank you.

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