Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   3679/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4288
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   32896
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2056
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6002
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33903
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   24125
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12852
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4408
FN_SYSOP   41678
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13599
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16070
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22092
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   926
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   3929/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1121
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   3218
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13270
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
Möte WHITEHOUSE, 5187 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 1257, 299 rader
Skriven 2005-08-04 23:33:22 av Whitehouse Press (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Press Release (0508042) for Thu, 2005 Aug 4
===================================================
===========================================================================
President, President Uribe of Colombia Discuss Terrorism and Security
===========================================================================

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
August 4, 2005

President, President Uribe of Colombia Discuss Terrorism and Security
Bush Ranch
Crawford, Texas



11:47 A.M. CDT

PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you all. Welcome. Laura and I are very pleased to
welcome President Uribe and his gracious wife, Lina, to our home here in
Crawford. President Uribe is a strong and principled leader. I admire his
determination; I appreciate his vision for a peaceful and prosperous
Colombia.

Our two nations are working together to fight drug trafficking and
terrorism, and to promote security, democracy and the rule of law
throughout the Americas. President Uribe's leadership and the courage of
the Colombian people are creating a bright future for Colombia. The
Colombian government implemented a comprehensive strategy, known as Plan
Colombia, to reduce the illegal drug trade, revitalize Colombia's economy,
strengthen its democratic institutions, and improve the security of its
people. The United States provided critical assistance for Plan Colombia,
and the plan is producing results.

Violent crime in Colombia is at its lowest level in 16 years. Since 2002,
murders, kidnappings and terrorist acts in Colombia have all declined
significantly. Colombia is also making great progress in reforming its
justice system. These gains in security and the rule of law are helping the
Colombian economy grow by more than 4 percent last year. And as Colombia
has improved its security and economy, it has also emerged as a leader in
our hemisphere.

Colombia shares our commitment to advancing economic growth, trade and
democracy in the Americas. Colombia is also sharing its expertise with
Afghanistan to combat terrorism and narco-trafficking in that new
democracy. And America is very grateful for your support.

America will continue to stand with the people of Colombia. I will ask the
Congress to sustain our commitment to follow-on programs for Plan Colombia
so Colombia can build on its progress and win its war against the
narco-terrorists. Our strategic partnership is vital to the security,
prosperity and freedom of both our countries and the Americas. Mr.
President, thank you for your leadership. Thank you for your friendship,
and welcome.

PRESIDENT URIBE: (As translated.) Mr. President, thank you very much, and I
also want to thank your wife, Laura, and all of your team. Thank you for
welcoming Lina, my delegation and myself to your home here, and for sharing
with us here in this wonderful place in Texas.

As you have well said, both of our countries have a strategic relationship
that is based on mutual trust, which is aimed at deepening democracy, at
combating terrorism, and on building social cohesion. Our agenda is very
important for the present and the future of both of our peoples, so that
Colombia can free itself from the scourge of terrorism.

The great enemy of Colombian democracy is terrorism. And our great partner
in defeating terrorism has been the government and the people of the United
States. Allow me to say here to the rest of the world that U.S. cooperation
has been exemplary. It has gone beyond rhetoric, and it has, in fact, been
cooperation that has been put in practice. And all democratic countries
need to know that, that cooperation should be realistic and put into
practice.

We have made progress, and we are winning, but we have not won yet. And
that is why it is important to continue with this cooperation, as you have
said, that you have asked from the Congress, President Bush. We cannot
leave this task half-finished. We must take it all the way to the end. We
need a definitive victory for both democratic peoples of Colombia and the
United States, and also, we must keep that objective in mind as we build
upon our results to keep moving forward to that final goal.

We trust that we will soon be able to announce the successful completion of
our free trade agreement -- an agreement built on trust; an agreement that
can help bring our democratic peoples closer together and in more
solidarity. The key word in Colombia today is "trust." This is the mutual
trust that is the basis of the relationship with the United States. It is
trust that we want to create among Colombian people, themselves.

So that Colombians can gain trust in their homeland, we are working on five
elements of a modern democracy. Number one is democratic security: security
for all citizens, security for pluralism, security for all ideas and for
all citizens.

The second element is respect for public freedom. In Colombia we've had a
dictatorship of terrorism, but the people, the government, and the nation
of Colombia that are fighting terrorism will do so by respecting public
freedom. They want to serve as an example, because that's the difference
between what has happened in our country and in other Latin American
countries, where it was government dictatorships. Here we have a democratic
government that has full respect for public freedom and that fully intends
to defeat terrorism.

The third element is to build social cohesion, which is necessary in order
to have sustainable democracy and a sustainable security policy. The
election of Ambassador Moreno, as President of the IDB represents a great
opportunity for our continent. It represents a new hope for us to combat
poverty, and to build social cohesion.

The fourth element is transparency. The fifth is respect for the
independence of institutions. Transparency in public affairs, transparency
in friendship, transparency in partnership and in agreement and in
disagreement. Transparency is critical for modern democracies in order for
the people to have trust in the government that guides them.

The fifth element is respect for the independence of our institutions,
which is important for the rule of law. This is critical for a modern
democracy. Colombia deepens its respect for its independent institutions,
especially now that we're combating -- in this moment of time, when we're
combating terrorism.

Thank you once again, President Bush, for your friendship, for your
solidarity, and you honor us by welcoming us here to your home.

PRESIDENT BUSH: We'll answer two questions a side. Nedra.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. The Discovery Space Shuttle mission has been
dominated by repairs and questions about safety. Do you think the return to
space was premature? And are you worried about Discovery's return next
week?

PRESIDENT BUSH: First of all, I had the honor of speaking to the -- the
folks of -- that are on that mission. And it was a great experience to be
talking to bold explorers. And, secondly, like a lot of Americans, I was
amazed at the procedures that took place to repair the craft. It's pretty
remarkable. I believe that -- I believe that the mission is important, and
I know that the mission directors will make the right decision about how to
proceed.

Ours is a country that values the safety of our citizens, particularly
those we ask to take risk in space. And there will be a lot of
deliberation, a lot of thought that goes into the decision as to whether or
not those brave souls can -- should return on that vehicle. And I know that
NASA has been very closely in touch with the White House. Andy Card has
been in touch with the Administrator on a regular basis. But I've got the
confidence -- all the confidence that they will make the right decision.

Let me also say that it is important for our fellow citizens to understand
that we're going to take the NASA mission beyond the current mission, that
we'll be using -- we want -- the plan right now is to phase out the shuttle
by 2010, and then begin to put a strategy in place that will use the moon
as a launching spot for further exploration.

I know the -- at least the people I've talked to inside NASA are excited
about the mission, the reinvigoration of the vision of exploration. And I
appreciate the Administrator working on getting that strategy in place, so
that when the decision is made to finally get rid of this phase of
exploration, we'll be ready to take on the new phase. And that's important
for the American people to understand, that, one, exploration is important;
two, there will be some good coming out of exploration; and, three, that
we've got a new vision embraced by NASA and its pioneers.

Go ahead and ask a question.

Q If you could answer in Spanish, that will be great. But, really, either
one of you can answer. I was wondering if Venezuela came up at all, and
whether or not you had a chance to discuss the advances in human rights
investigations in Colombia?

PRESIDENT URIBE: (Question answered in Spanish.)

Q Did you discuss Venezuela and human rights?

PRESIDENT URIBE: (Question answered in Spanish.)

Q Mr. President --

PRESIDENT BUSH: Hold on a second. Why don't you translate that, please.

TRANSLATOR: Colombia faces a threat from terrorism from -- funded by drug
trafficking. This is a threat that can affect the entire neighborhood, that
can affect our entire continent, because when Colombian terrorists cannot
kidnap within our borders, they're forced to kidnap outside in our
neighboring countries. This terrorism -- this kind of terrorism knows no
limits, it knows no ethics. And that is why it must be defeated in
Colombia. And we must do this by getting cooperation from our neighboring
countries. And that is what we aspire to at the highest levels.

As far as our human rights. This was discussed with great seriousness and
with great respect. Our security policy must be sustainable. In order for
it to be sustainable, there must be respect for human rights and there must
be transparency for the -- so that it can be respected by public opinion.
The respect for human rights needs transparency. This is what we work for
in Colombia every day.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Steve.

Q Thanks, sir. Al Qaeda's number two, Dr. al-Zawahiri, is warning that
attacks will continue until U.S. troops leave Iraq. How serious a threat is
this? And after so many Marines were killed this week, what's being done to
improve their safety?

PRESIDENT BUSH: First, let me say that we mourn the loss of every fallen
troop. And the community outside of Cleveland, Brook Park, Ohio, suffered
mightily over the last couple of days. It's -- the people of Brook Park and
the family members of those who lost their life, I hope they can take
comfort in the fact that millions of their fellow citizens pray for them. I
hope they also take comfort in the understanding that the sacrifice was
made in a noble cause.

We're laying the foundation of peace for generations to come. We're
defeating the terrorists in a place like Iraq so we don't have to face them
here at home. And, as well, we're spreading democracy and freedom to parts
of the world that are desperate for democracy and freedom.

The comments by the number two man of al Qaeda make it clear that Iraq is a
part of this war on terror, and we're at war. In other words, he's saying,
leave. As I have told the American people, one, that people like Zawahiri
have an ideology that is dark, dim, backwards; they don't trust -- they
don't appreciate women; if you don't agree to their narrow view of a
religion you'll be whipped in the public square. That's their view, and
they have tactics to help spread that view. In other words, they've got
goals. They want to spread that point of view throughout the world,
starting in the broader Middle East. And part of their goal is to drive us
out of the broader Middle East, precisely what Zawahiri said. In other
words, he's threatening.

They have come up against a nation that, one, will defend itself. Zawahiri
is a part of that team that attacked us on September the 11th, 2001. He was
part of an al Qaeda group that said, well, we'll try to achieve our
objective in attacking America. They must not have understood the nature of
our country. I vowed then that we would stay on the offense against these
people. We owe it to the American people, and other freedom-loving
countries, to bring these killers to justice. And that's what they are:
they're terrorists, and they're killers. And they will kill innocent people
trying to get us to withdraw from the world, so they can impose their dark
vision on the world. That's what they're trying to do. And the comments
today by Mr. Zawahiri absolutely reinforce what I've just told you.

We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. And the job is
this: We'll help the Iraqis develop a democracy. They're writing -- in the
process of writing a constitution, which will be ratified in October, and
then they will elect a permanent government. It's also important for our
citizens to understand that progress has been made, particularly when
eight-plus million people got to vote in the face of Zawahiri and Sarawak
and these killers.

We're also training Iraqis. Our troops will come home as soon as possible.
"As soon as possible" means when those Iraqis are prepared to fight. As
Iraq stands up, our coalition will stand down.

The Iraqis want to live in a free society. Zawahiri doesn't want them to
live in a free society. And that's the clash of ideologies -- freedom
versus tyranny. We have had these kinds of clashes before, and we have
prevailed. We have prevailed because we're right; we have prevailed because
we adhere to a hopeful philosophy; and we have prevailed because we would
not falter.

Go ahead and ask --

Q Also the question is for President Bush. Did you talk about the necessity
and the importance of the creation of international community that can
verify the application of the justice and peace law, and also its
implementation?

PRESIDENT BUSH: We did talk about human rights. I talked about human
rights. The Secretary of State Arrow -- (laughter) -- talked about human
rights. The President assured us -- a couple of points that are important
to understand -- one, that there is an independent judiciary, in other
words, independent from government, that will adjudicate these disputes;
secondly, that there is a new prosecutor reporting to the independent
judiciary that will follow through on the cases; and, thirdly, that he is
committed to seeing to it as best as possible that progress be made on
these cases.

And we talked about specific cases. And I listened intently and believe
that he is interested in following through on these cases, so that the
world will hear loud and clear that Colombia is a nation of law and human
rights and human dignity.

PRESIDENT URIBE: (Question answered in Spanish.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: You le compendia. Vamps a comer. (Laughter.) I told him I
understood him. We're going to go eat. Thank you very much. Appreciate you.
Gracias.

Q What's on the menu? What's on the menu?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Carne.

Q Carne.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Necesito preguntar a mi esposa. I've been thinking about
business; she's been thinking about the food.

END 12:15 P.M. CDT
===========================================================================
Return to this article at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050804-2.html

 * Origin: (1:3634/12)