Tillbaka till svenska Fidonet
English   Information   Debug  
UFO   0/40
UNIX   0/1316
USA_EURLINK   0/102
USR_MODEMS   0/1
VATICAN   0/2740
VIETNAM_VETS   0/14
VIRUS   0/378
VIRUS_INFO   0/201
VISUAL_BASIC   0/473
WHITEHOUSE   900/5187
WIN2000   0/101
WIN32   0/30
WIN95   0/4288
WIN95_OLD1   0/70272
WINDOWS   0/1517
WWB_SYSOP   0/419
WWB_TECH   0/810
ZCC-PUBLIC   0/1
ZEC   4

 
4DOS   0/134
ABORTION   0/7
ALASKA_CHAT   0/506
ALLFIX_FILE   0/1313
ALLFIX_FILE_OLD1   0/7997
ALT_DOS   0/152
AMATEUR_RADIO   0/1039
AMIGASALE   0/14
AMIGA   0/331
AMIGA_INT   0/1
AMIGA_PROG   0/20
AMIGA_SYSOP   0/26
ANIME   0/15
ARGUS   0/924
ASCII_ART   0/340
ASIAN_LINK   0/651
ASTRONOMY   0/417
AUDIO   0/92
AUTOMOBILE_RACING   0/105
BABYLON5   0/17862
BAG   135
BATPOWER   0/361
BBBS.ENGLISH   0/382
BBSLAW   0/109
BBS_ADS   0/5290
BBS_INTERNET   0/507
BIBLE   0/3563
BINKD   0/1119
BINKLEY   0/215
BLUEWAVE   0/2173
CABLE_MODEMS   0/25
CBM   0/46
CDRECORD   0/66
CDROM   0/20
CLASSIC_COMPUTER   0/378
COMICS   0/15
CONSPRCY   0/899
COOKING   32896
COOKING_OLD1   0/24719
COOKING_OLD2   0/40862
COOKING_OLD3   0/37489
COOKING_OLD4   0/35496
COOKING_OLD5   9370
C_ECHO   0/189
C_PLUSPLUS   0/31
DIRTY_DOZEN   0/201
DOORGAMES   0/2056
DOS_INTERNET   0/196
duplikat   6002
ECHOLIST   0/18295
EC_SUPPORT   0/318
ELECTRONICS   0/359
ELEKTRONIK.GER   1534
ENET.LINGUISTIC   0/13
ENET.POLITICS   0/4
ENET.SOFT   0/11701
ENET.SYSOP   33903
ENET.TALKS   0/32
ENGLISH_TUTOR   0/2000
EVOLUTION   0/1335
FDECHO   0/217
FDN_ANNOUNCE   0/7068
FIDONEWS   24125
FIDONEWS_OLD1   0/49742
FIDONEWS_OLD2   0/35949
FIDONEWS_OLD3   0/30874
FIDONEWS_OLD4   0/37224
FIDO_SYSOP   12852
FIDO_UTIL   0/180
FILEFIND   0/209
FILEGATE   0/212
FILM   0/18
FNEWS_PUBLISH   4408
FN_SYSOP   41678
FN_SYSOP_OLD1   71952
FTP_FIDO   0/2
FTSC_PUBLIC   0/13599
FUNNY   0/4886
GENEALOGY.EUR   0/71
GET_INFO   105
GOLDED   0/408
HAM   0/16070
HOLYSMOKE   0/6791
HOT_SITES   0/1
HTMLEDIT   0/71
HUB203   466
HUB_100   264
HUB_400   39
HUMOR   0/29
IC   0/2851
INTERNET   0/424
INTERUSER   0/3
IP_CONNECT   719
JAMNNTPD   0/233
JAMTLAND   0/47
KATTY_KORNER   0/41
LAN   0/16
LINUX-USER   0/19
LINUXHELP   0/1155
LINUX   0/22092
LINUX_BBS   0/957
mail   18.68
mail_fore_ok   249
MENSA   0/341
MODERATOR   0/102
MONTE   0/992
MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA   0/1245
MUFFIN   0/783
MUSIC   0/321
N203_STAT   926
N203_SYSCHAT   313
NET203   321
NET204   69
NET_DEV   0/10
NORD.ADMIN   0/101
NORD.CHAT   0/2572
NORD.FIDONET   189
NORD.HARDWARE   0/28
NORD.KULTUR   0/114
NORD.PROG   0/32
NORD.SOFTWARE   0/88
NORD.TEKNIK   0/58
NORD   0/453
OCCULT_CHAT   0/93
OS2BBS   0/787
OS2DOSBBS   0/580
OS2HW   0/42
OS2INET   0/37
OS2LAN   0/134
OS2PROG   0/36
OS2REXX   0/113
OS2USER-L   207
OS2   0/4786
OSDEBATE   0/18996
PASCAL   0/490
PERL   0/457
PHP   0/45
POINTS   0/405
POLITICS   0/29554
POL_INC   0/14731
PSION   103
R20_ADMIN   1121
R20_AMATORRADIO   0/2
R20_BEST_OF_FIDONET   13
R20_CHAT   0/893
R20_DEPP   0/3
R20_DEV   399
R20_ECHO2   1379
R20_ECHOPRES   0/35
R20_ESTAT   0/719
R20_FIDONETPROG...
...RAM.MYPOINT
  0/2
R20_FIDONETPROGRAM   0/22
R20_FIDONET   0/248
R20_FILEFIND   0/24
R20_FILEFOUND   0/22
R20_HIFI   0/3
R20_INFO2   3218
R20_INTERNET   0/12940
R20_INTRESSE   0/60
R20_INTR_KOM   0/99
R20_KANDIDAT.CHAT   42
R20_KANDIDAT   28
R20_KOM_DEV   112
R20_KONTROLL   0/13270
R20_KORSET   0/18
R20_LOKALTRAFIK   0/24
R20_MODERATOR   0/1852
R20_NC   76
R20_NET200   245
R20_NETWORK.OTH...
...ERNETS
  0/13
R20_OPERATIVSYS...
...TEM.LINUX
  0/44
R20_PROGRAMVAROR   0/1
R20_REC2NEC   534
R20_SFOSM   0/340
R20_SF   0/108
R20_SPRAK.ENGLISH   0/1
R20_SQUISH   107
R20_TEST   2
R20_WORST_OF_FIDONET   12
RAR   0/9
RA_MULTI   106
RA_UTIL   0/162
REGCON.EUR   0/2056
REGCON   0/13
SCIENCE   0/1206
SF   0/239
SHAREWARE_SUPPORT   0/5146
SHAREWRE   0/14
SIMPSONS   0/169
STATS_OLD1   0/2539.065
STATS_OLD2   0/2530
STATS_OLD3   0/2395.095
STATS_OLD4   0/1692.25
SURVIVOR   0/495
SYSOPS_CORNER   0/3
SYSOP   0/84
TAGLINES   0/112
TEAMOS2   0/4530
TECH   0/2617
TEST.444   0/105
TRAPDOOR   0/19
TREK   0/755
TUB   0/290
Möte WHITEHOUSE, 5187 texter
 lista första sista föregående nästa
Text 1962, 737 rader
Skriven 2006-01-05 23:33:40 av Whitehouse Press (1:3634/12.0)
Ärende: Press Release (0601052) for Thu, 2006 Jan 5
===================================================
===========================================================================
Press Briefing by Scott McClellan
===========================================================================

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
January 5, 2006

Press Briefing by Scott McClellan
James S. Brady Briefing Room

Press Briefing
"); //--> view

  þ Energy assistance
  þ President's speech on the economy
      þ Reference B
  þ President's meeting with former Secretaries of Defense and State
      þ Reference B
      þ Reference C
      þ Reference D
  þ Prime Minister Sharon condition
      þ Reference B
      þ Reference C
  þ Abramoff scandal
  þ Iraq war
      þ Reference B
  þ Iran
      þ Reference B
  þ West Virginia coal minters

1:10 P.M. EST

MR. McCLELLAN: Let me start with one announcement, and then I want to
preview tomorrow's remarks on the economy. Later today the Department of
Health and Human Services is going to be making available $733 million in
low-income energy assistance, including $100 million in emergency
contingency funds targeted to areas with the greatest needs. These are
funds that the President signed into law as part of the Labor HHS Education
Bill on December 30th. The high cost of home heating this winter mandates
this special response to help low-income Americans heat their homes and
provide for their basic needs. The President is pleased to be able to work
with Congress to provide this important relief.

Tomorrow the President looks forward to going to the Chicago Board of Trade
and talking about our economy. Our economy is strong and growing because of
the pro-growth policies that we have pursued and put in place. We have seen
nearly $4.5 million new jobs created since May of '03; the unemployment
rate is below the averages of the '70s, '80s, and '90s at 5 percent;
consumer confidence is up; more Americans own their home than at any time
in our history; minority homeownership is at a record high; real after-tax
income is up; manufacturing activity has grown for 31 straight months. The
tax cuts that we passed are working to create jobs and economic
opportunity.

In Chicago, the President will talk about the steps that we need to
continue to take in Washington to keep our economy growing and making sure
that opportunities of a strong economy are reaching every community in
America. Our economy is the envy of the world, and is the fastest-growing
economy of any in the industrialized world. So tomorrow what the President
will do is focus on three key elements of our strategy. The President will
talk about the importance of increasing opportunity by keeping our economy
growing, and in that aspect he'll focus on a couple of specific areas.
He'll talk about the importance of tax cuts and the importance of tax cuts
to creating jobs and opportunity. And he'll take on those who would
advocate raising taxes. It's important to make the tax cuts that we have
put in place permanent. He will also talk about the importance of spending
restraint. We need real discipline in Washington with the taxpayers' money.
We need to be good stewards of the taxpayers' money.

We're making important progress. Each year the President has been in office
we have cut the growth of non-security discretionary spending; 2006 we
proposed the most disciplined budget since Reagan was President.

A second aspect he'll talk about is making sure that workers have the
skills and the job training that they need to fill the new jobs of the 21st
century, particularly in our changing economy that we are in. In this
aspect, I think he'll focus on closing the wage gap. He'll talk about how
education is key to closing the wage gap, and that higher education levels
mean higher incomes for American workers. And he'll talk about the
importance of helping workers make sure that they have the education they
need to take advantage of the opportunities of the 21st century economy.

And the third aspect I think that he'll focus on in his remarks is
increasing opportunity by expanding trade, and talk about the importance of
opening markets abroad to American products and workers. That means jobs
here at home and expanding opportunity here at home. And he'll talk about
the importance of a level playing field in that regard, as well.

In addition to the President and his remarks tomorrow in Chicago, let me
give you an update on some of the other high-level administration officials
and what they'll be doing talking about the economy tomorrow. The Vice
President will be participating in a tour of a Harley Davidson factory in
Kansas City, Missouri, and then he will be delivering remarks on the
economy.

The Secretary of Treasury will be participating in some television
interviews in the morning and visiting the New York Stock Exchange. The
Secretary of Commerce will be in Louisville, Kentucky to meet with
Louisville Slugger officials and local business leaders to discuss the
strength of our economy. And he will hold a media availability. The
Secretary of Labor will be in Baltimore to make remarks on the economy and
talk about the President's job training initiatives. And then the Secretary
of Energy will be in Pittsburgh talking at the Pittsburgh Energy Summit,
2006, to discuss energy issues with local leaders in Pittsburgh.

And that is all I have to begin with. I'll be glad to go to your questions.
John, go ahead.

Q Secretary Laird said, when he came out of the meeting this morning, that
the President heard some things from the participants that he didn't like.
What did the President hear that he didn't like today?

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know what he was referring to. You might want to ask
what he --

Q I don't know, either, so that's why I was asking you.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- what he was referring to. The President welcomed the
opportunity to sit down with this distinguished group of Democrats and
Republicans from previous administrations. I will tell you -- to give you
an accurate picture of what took place in that meeting -- the President
talked about how he wanted to hear from each of these leaders, that he
valued their advice and ideas. And he talked about the importance of what
we're working to achieve in Iraq and how that is important to helping lay
the foundations of peace for generations to come, and the importance of
spreading democracy.

So this was really an opportunity to update them on our plan for victory
and the progress we're making, as well as to talk about the difficulties
and challenges ahead. The President has talked often about how while we're
making important progress, there are going to be tough days ahead. We have
seen that today has been a tough day in Iraq. We lost five of our bravest
soldiers and there have been suicide bomb attacks on a holy shrine in Iraq;
there was a suicide bomb yesterday on a funeral procession, where the enemy
is targeting innocent civilians. We know the enemy wants to disrupt the
transition to democracy and disrupt the formation of a new government. But
every step of the way, they have failed to stop the political process from
moving forward because the Iraqi people want to live in freedom and chart
their own future.

And so these leaders were able to hear from General Casey and Ambassador
Khalilzad about the progress that we're making and about the challenges
that remain. But they had some very good questions and some constructive
ideas that the President welcomed the opportunity to listen to. And I think
that was, by and large, most of the discussion was focused on the progress
we're making, as well as listening to some of the constructive ideas that
they had.

Q So you were at the meeting, did you see any comments from any of the
former Secretaries that the President didn't seem to like?

MR. McCLELLAN: He appreciated the opportunity to sit down with them. I
think they had a very open discussion about things, but for the most part,
he heard constructive ideas that he appreciated hearing. I know there was
one Secretary that talked about the importance of making sure the military
is calling the shots, and that it's not being based on the political side
here in Washington, D.C. Well, that's something the President has talked
about often, that the decisions on the ground need to be made by our
commanders on the ground. It's our military leaders who are in the best
position to make the decisions about troop levels. And they understand the
mission. They understand the stakes involved, and they know what they need
to complete that mission.

He heard about some ideas on the formation of helping the new government be
an inclusive one that represents all Iraqis. He heard some appreciation
from these -- I think a number of these leaders, if not all, that they
appreciated the speeches the President has been giving, talking to the
American people about our plan for victory and making clear to them the
challenges and difficulties that lie ahead, and doing so in a very open and
candid way. And they encouraged him to keep doing that.

And one of the leaders, one of the Secretaries, former Secretaries at the
end, I think summed it up -- and everybody seemed to nod their heads --
said, "Thank you for bringing us here. I can't recall another time when a
President has done something like this."

Q Scott, former Prime Minister -- or former Secretary Eagleburger said that
Prime Minister Sharon's stroke was a disaster for the peace process. Does
the White House agree with that assessment?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, first of all, Terry, let me make clear a couple of
things, this is a time to keep Prime Minister Sharon in our thoughts and
prayers. And that's what we are doing. We pray for his recovery, and we
will continue to keep our focus there. I think Secretary Rice, earlier
today, made very clear that the desire for peace in the Middle East is wide
and deep within Israel and within the Palestinian Territories. And in terms
of the situation right now, we continue to stay in touch with the
government of Israel and we pray for Prime Minister Sharon.

Q What impact do you think this has had on the peace process?

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, Terry, I think this is a time to keep our attention
where it should be, which is on the health of Prime Minister Sharon. The
President is concerned about his health situation. He had a good discussion
with Secretary General Annan earlier today on some other matters, and they
talked about their shared concern for Prime Minister Sharon's health. He is
a courageous leader who has taken some bold steps to help advance peace in
the Middle East. But the desire for peace is strong in the region and it is
wide and deep, as Secretary Rice indicated.

Q Scott, could I please follow on that?

MR. McCLELLAN: Sure.

Q Effectively, Ehud Olmert is effectively in power at this point. I know he
has a very close relationship with the Bush administration. But do you
believe that -- do you have confidence in his ability to push forward
Sharon's vision? I mean, you talk about how Sharon was such a powerful
leader.

MR. McCLELLAN: Under Israeli law, he is the acting Prime Minister right
now, and he is someone who is well-known and well-respected, and he is
someone who we will work with in his acting capacity on issues of mutual
concern.

Q May I follow also? Does the U.S. think it's wise to delay the elections
both in Israel and in the Palestinian area?

MR. McCLELLAN: We believe that the elections should go forward on schedule,
and we've expressed our desire to President Abbas. This is a schedule -- it
was set by the Palestinians and we believe it's important to move ahead on
schedule, and we've expressed those views on a number of occasions.

Q And the Israeli elections?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?

Q Israel also has elections coming up.

MR. McCLELLAN: Right. I haven't heard any discussion about any delay there.

Q Were you able to find out whether Abramoff was part of the transition
team, and in that respect, had any relationship to the Interior Department?

MR. McCLELLAN: In terms of any individual agency, I think you'd have to go
and check with the people who were involved in that transition. In terms of
the overall transition effort, I mean, we had an office that was running --
I was very involved in that effort -- and he wasn't a member of the staff
of any of the transition team here in Washington, D.C. But in terms of --

Q He wasn't on the team at all?

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know of any other formal role he had, but again, if
there are individual agencies where they might have sought advice from
people, you have to ask those individual agencies, or people that were
involved within their transitions.

Q Does the President think that 120 people dying in Iraq, after we're
nearly three years into this war, is tolerable?

MR. McCLELLAN: The Iraqi people, Helen, have shown time and time again that
they want to live in freedom. I think it's important to look at what took
place in December. There are terrorists and Saddam loyalists --

Q Why are we there? Why are we killing people there?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- there are terrorists and Saddam loyalists -- because
we're transforming the Middle East, and that will help us lay the
foundations of peace for generations to come.

Q -- didn't ask you to do that, their country.

MR. McCLELLAN: We were attacked on September 11th and --

Q We were not attacked by Iraqis.

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't think we ever said we were. But what we learned on
that day was that this is not a law enforcement war we're engaged in. This
is a war about the safety and security of the American people. It's not a
law enforcement matter. It's a war. We are a nation at war. And this is a
comprehensive effort that we're taking. We're not ignoring threats. We are
confronting threats before it's too late. And that's what this President
will --

Q You had none from Iraq.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- that's what this President will continue to do because he
knows his most important responsibility is protecting the American people.
And spreading democracy in the broader Middle East is vital to our own
nation's --

Q Don't do it by attacking an innocent country.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- vital to our own nation's security. And the Iraqi people
have shown they are deeply appreciative of the efforts that we have
undertaken to remove a regime that was a threat and a destabilizing force
in a dangerous region of the world. And we are going to change a troubled
region for the better, and it will help lay the foundations of peace for
generations to come.

Go ahead.

Q Did any of the former Secretaries have anything more than constructive
suggestions? Did they think anything was wrong? Did they --

MR. McCLELLAN: I think what's important --

Q -- did they give ideas to you for what the administration should be doing
differently?

MR. McCLELLAN: Sure. Absolutely.

Q In what categories?

MR. McCLELLAN: There were some ideas. Well, I'll let them speak to their
ideas. I gave you a general overview, but I said, yes, there were a number
of constructive ideas or suggestions that they had of things that maybe we
ought to do differently. And the President very much welcomed their advice
and said, I want to hear your ideas; we welcome good ideas about moving
forward. But he also talked very clearly about the plan we have in place
and the progress we're making on it.

Remember, the plan we have in place is something that is dynamic. We adjust
and adapt. We learn from experience. Where there have been mistakes, we
have worked to fix those problems and move forward. And that's the nature
of the war we're engaged in. And what's important is that we are continuing
to move forward toward completing our mission.

And in terms of some of the comments that were made by some of these former
Secretaries, I mean they talked about the importance of continuing to
internationalize the effort, the importance of continuing to speak to the
American people about our plan, as well as about the difficulties and
challenges that lie ahead. I think each one of those secretaries can speak
for themselves in terms of what some of those were.

But the President looked forward to this opportunity as a way to consult
with some distinguished individuals who have a lot of experience.

Q Can you also explain something about -- you often say the Iraqis are in
charge, or that's up to the Iraqis. How far does that go? I mean, are they
in charge of --

MR. McCLELLAN: It's a sovereign nation.

Q But when they choose someone to head a brigade that the United States
isn't very happy about.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think you ought to talk to the military about those
matters, because --

Q No, I understand you're going to say, let's talk to the military.

MR. McCLELLAN: You may be referring to some recent reports, and I'm not
sure that the military commanders would necessarily say that those reports
accurately reflect the way things are.

Q But if something happens in the training of Iraqi security forces, who is
ultimately in charge? The Iraqis are in charge because it's a sovereign
nation --

MR. McCLELLAN: It is a sovereign nation. But I think the way to look at it
is that we're working very closely with the Iraqi security forces. And I
think our commanders have talked about how they are more and more in the
lead and controlling more of the territory. I think the number -- and
double check this with the Pentagon -- is that only 13 percent of the
operations are now coalition-only operations, that the vast majority of the
operations are either conducted by Iraqi security forces or with coalition
forces and Iraqi security forces.

So what we're continuing to do is make sure that we're training and
equipping them so that they have the capability to defend themselves. And
that also means embedding people into those security forces, so that we can
make sure they're getting the proper training, and that where there are
setbacks or things are falling short, we can help address those issues.

Q But they make the decision, all the decisions.

MR. McCLELLAN: It's a sovereign nation. We work in partnership --

Q Detainee policy, on anything.

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think we're working in partnership with this, and
certainly we're helping in assisting them on those efforts. And I think
that they appreciate the job that our men and women in uniform are doing,
and they respect the advice that is given by our military commanders on the
ground.

Q Did any of the former Secretaries raise any questions about the use of
the NSA spy program, since they would all have --

MR. McCLELLAN: No, wasn't discussed in this meeting.

Q Not in any way?

MR. McCLELLAN: Not in any way.

Q Do you have an update for us on --

MR. McCLELLAN: I did -- I will say, I was in the Roosevelt Room, they went
over to the Oval Office, but that was just to -- for the President to visit
informally and take some pictures with them. I wasn't there for that.

Q Any update on the Abramoff visits to the White House beyond the three
parties that he attended?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I indicated yesterday that I think there were some --
a few staff-level meetings. But, no, I'm making sure that I have a thorough
report back to you on that. And I'll get that to you, hopefully very soon.

Q Scott, going back to terrorism and Israel. For the last 20 years, Israel
and India were the first countries victims of terrorism, and still today
both are there. Now elections are going to take place, and Hamas is -- they
are saying that they are going to win the election, and they are not going
to back up their target in Israel and killing innocent people.

Now, there's a chaos going on, I understand now, in Israel, and also Irani
President has also -- he has never apologized for what he said about Israel
and bombing -- or Israel that they should be moved out of the area and all
that. What other --

MR. McCLELLAN: What question do you have?

Q My question is --

MR. McCLELLAN: About three issues in that.

Q -- where do we stand as far as now terrorists will be coming in Palestine
which we are hoping that -- we hope that there should be or there will be
democracy, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan. As far as terrorism is
concerned, where do we stand in the future?

MR. McCLELLAN: In terms of our views on Hamas, they are very clear, and
they are unchanged. Just last week, the Quartet, of which the United States
is a member, put out a statement talking about some of those issues. I was
-- would encourage you to go back and look at that statement. We support
the Palestinian people moving forward on the democratic process, and we are
there helping them to put in place the institutions for a viable state to
emerge. And that's what we're committed to doing.

Q On Iran, the President of Iran never apologized what he said or what he
believes on terrorism, and also going ahead with the nuclear program?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think that his continued outrageous comments only
further underscore the concerns the international community has about
Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons. That is a serious concern. That is why
the international community is demanding that Iran come into compliance,
that they abide by their agreements. Iran's statements and actions only
continue to further isolate themselves from the international community,
and if they continue on the path that they are going and the negotiations
continue to run their course, then we will have no option -- the
international community, that is, will have no option but to look to the
Security Council.

Go ahead, Victoria.

Q Scott, is it possible to, nevertheless, keep Sharon in our thoughts and
prayers but comment on the peace process and its future at the same time?
Can't those things happen simultaneously?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think I did make a general statement about the
commitment to peace in the Middle East.

Q But in a more specific way, in terms of if he is incapacitated and what
his incapacitation would mean?

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, I'm not -- I don't think it's appropriate to get into
those discussions at this time. What's important is to keep Prime Minister
Sharon in our thoughts and prayers right now.

Q And then one other one, on the meeting with the Secretaries this morning.
About how much time did each Secretary have to speak given that there were
quite a lot of them, and not much time in the meeting?

MR. McCLELLAN: Several of them either asked questions or commented in a
variety of ways. The meeting lasted probably -- and he was probably with
them an hour or so. They heard from General Casey. They heard from
Ambassador Khalilzad. These are our people who are on the ground, our
civilian and military leaders, about the progress on the political front
and about the progress on the security front, and about the challenges and
difficulties that lie ahead. And they asked questions during that time when
those two individuals were talking, and then afterwards, there was an
opportunity to kind of go around the table and get people's thoughts and
ideas. And several of them expressed some very good ideas.

Q Can I follow on Iran --

MR. McCLELLAN: You already had your questions. Go ahead.

Q On Iran -- well, they were follow-up, the other was follow-up -- when
will the U.S. give up on diplomacy on Iran, and what other options are
there? Are these threats to be --

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think I just touched on it. Iran needs to abide by
the agreements that it has made and needs to fully comply with its
international obligations. The actions and statements that the regime is
making only serve to further isolate the regime in Iran from the rest of
the international community. We have serious concerns about their pursuit
of nuclear weapons under the guise of a civilian nuclear program. They have
a long history of concealment and a long history of failing to cooperate
with the International Atomic Energy Agency. And Secretary Rice talked
earlier today about this very matter, as well, and she made it clear that
if it becomes clear the negotiations have run their course, then we have
the votes at the International Atomic Energy Agency to go to the Security
Council, to refer the matter to the Security Council. There is a resolution
that is sitting there, and the votes are there to refer the matter.

Remember, the last meeting they had, they called on Iran again to come back
to negotiations and act in good faith. We continue to support the efforts
of the European-3 to resolve this diplomatically, but Iran's most recent
actions and statements only show that they are continuing to pursue a
course that isolates it from the rest of the world.

This is a matter of trust. They have shown in the past they cannot be
trusted, and that's why these negotiations are so important.

Q You said that threats need to be confronted. If Iran doesn't listen to
the Security Council, what options are left?

MR. McCLELLAN: The President has talked about this in the past, and we've
talked about it in the past. We continue to support the efforts of the
European-3 to resolve this in a diplomatic way. But if the negotiations
come to an end and it becomes clear, then the Security Council is something
that the international community is prepared to refer the matter to.

Q Scott, some of what you're saying sounds an awful lot like the preamble
to Iraq.

MR. McCLELLAN: No.

Q So how long do they have?

MR. McCLELLAN: The President -- remember, the President has talked about
this. Let's go back to what the President has said. It's not the same as --
it's not the same as Iraq. The President said that in Europe. Go ahead.

Q When did Dr. Rice say all this?

MR. McCLELLAN: She had a breakfast with some reporters earlier today.

Q Scott, a two-part. Does the President believe that the nation, and
especially West Virginia, deserve a real apology from the Associated Press
and other old big media who reported those coal miners were alive?

MR. McCLELLAN: Les, I think it was a very heart-wrenching experience for
the families and the community in West Virginia with the confusion that
occurred and the communication the other day. The families of those who
lost their lives remain in our thoughts and prayers. Our hearts go out to
them. There is an investigation that has been launched by the Mine Safety
and Health Administration, and one aspect they'll look at is the
communication and what happened with regard to that. And I wouldn't want to
draw any conclusions.

Q Yes, but my question is, does he believe that the AP and other old big
media should apologize?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm not drawing any conclusions, Les. You're trying to get
me to draw conclusions.

Q Okay. Navy Chaplain --

MR. McCLELLAN: -- based on something that will be looked at --

Q Navy Chaplain --

MR. McCLELLAN: -- that we know was a horrible thing that happened for the
families and the community there.

Q Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt has gone without food for two weeks
in his protesting of the Navy's ordering him not to mention Jesus in public
prayer. He's hoping for an executive order. Does the President believe that
the Navy should engage in this suppression of the First Amendment's
guarantee of the free exercise of religion?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, the President believes strongly in the free exercise
of religion. And he believes that it's important that our military
personnel be able to freely express themselves --

Q Will he order them, in an executive order?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- to religion. And we value the contributions of our
military chaplains to our men and women in uniform. And we're committed to
safeguarding the ability of people to freely express their religious views.

Q When did he issue an executive order --

MR. McCLELLAN: Let me make clear --

Q Isn't he going to do that, as Commander-in-Chief?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm not talking about any specific matter, but I'm talking
about the principles and what we're committed to doing.

Q Scott, a few days ago, conservative columnist Paul Craig Roberts had a
column where he compared the administration's use of September 11th with
Hitler and the Reichstag fire as a blanket cover for extraordinary
measures. Now, this is coming from a conservative columnist; this is not
Nancy Pelosi. Doesn't this concern you that these kind of reactions have
come up especially with all the revelations about the NSA and spying?

MR. McCLELLAN: I haven't seen his column -- I haven't seen his column. But
what -- your characterization I would reject wholeheartedly.

Q Scott, you said some of the members of the Cabinet Hall of Fame who met
with the President this morning had suggestions on how to go forward. Did
any of them challenge the President or have any questions about the wisdom
of the overall strategy to date?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I think there's a common commitment within that room
to succeed in Iraq. Everybody in that room understands the importance of
succeeding. And I think everybody in that room would say the same publicly.
It's important that we succeed in Iraq. Sure, there are differences of
opinions. The President talked about that in his remarks. There were some
that didn't support the decision that he made to go into Iraq. Presidents
have to make tough decisions and he's fully aware of the decisions that he
makes and the consequences of those decisions --

Q Did any of them tell him that --

MR. McCLELLAN: It was the right decision to go in there and remove that
regime. And now it's important that we stay focused on what we're working
to accomplish, because a free Iraq will help transform a troubled region
and help inspire reformers throughout the broader Middle East. It will
serve as an example to reformers in Iran and Syria and other parts of the
Middle East.

Q Did anyone at that meeting look at the President and say, you've made
some mistakes, and mention any of them?

MR. McCLELLAN: Oh, I think they expressed some of their views on things
that they think maybe we could do -- some of them did -- that we could do
differently, or things that we could build upon.

Q What kind of things?

MR. McCLELLAN: I said -- I indicated earlier that I'll let them speak for
themselves. They're very capable individuals.

Q They told us to ask you.

MR. McCLELLAN: Actually, I think they spoke to the press out there; I don't
think that's what they said. Nice try.

Q That's where they told us to ask you.

MR. McCLELLAN: Nice try. (Laughter.)

Q Roberts wasn't there. (Laughter.)

Q Scott, there are a number of parties and countries around Israel that --
where the support for peace is not exactly "wide and deep." What would this
administration's message be to anyone plotting to take advantage of the
current vacuum in Israel?

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, our focus is on Prime Minister Sharon and his health
situation. He is in our thoughts and prayers. And you're asking me to
speculate beyond that. I think we ought to keep our focus where it should
be. But I would dispute part of what you insinuated in that because I think
very strongly that people throughout that region want to live in peace and
freedom. And that's what the President has been committed to for a long
time, helping the parties move forward on the peace process.

Q Scott, you know that Iran has designs on Israel; you know that there are
elements in the Palestinian territories that do, too. Are there no concerns
that one of these entities is going to try to take advantage of the current
vacuum in Israel?

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, you say "current vacuum," there is an acting Prime
Minister in place, someone who is well known, well respected, someone we
have worked with, and someone that we will work with in his acting capacity
to continue to move forward on issues of mutual concern.

Q Scott?

MR. McCLELLAN: Go ahead, Paula.

Q On the economy, you said the President will be addressing the deficit as
one of the areas tomorrow. I was wondering, besides the short-term deficit,
will the President or Cabinet officials be addressing their concerns over a
long-term deficit?

MR. McCLELLAN: Actually, I think he will. Entitlement programs are
something that need to be addressed. The President has been leading in
talking about the importance of modernizing and reforming our entitlement
programs. This goes to the big problem that we face when it comes to
deficits, and that's the long-term deficits. We must address these issues.
And the longer we wait, the more difficult it becomes and the more limited
the choices become. That's why this President has been leading the way to
address these issues now because this is about helping future generations
realize important benefits and not being straddled with massive debt.

And one thing that the House and Senate have done is move forward on
proposals that we outlined in our budget to significantly reduce mandatory
spending in entitlement programs. And we appreciate the efforts that
they've undertaken. They have agreed to -- I think it's some $40 billion in
savings in mandatory programs over the next several years. And it's
important that they move forward and get that finalized and get it to the
President's desk so he can sign it.

They also moved forward on, I think, some 89 programs that were either --
that were not working or not necessary. They reduced or eliminated those
programs. So there's good progress being made, but the President is serious
about fiscal discipline. And if we're serious about fiscal discipline in
Washington, we must address the long-term deficits issue. And I do expect
he will talk a little bit about that tomorrow within his remarks.

Q Well, is there any concern, though, about the long-term deficit from
making tax cuts -- particularly the alternative minimum tax -- permanent
after 2009, and the effect that could have on the deficit?

MR. McCLELLAN: Well, I've expressed our views on the alternative minimum
tax, and we've also talked about our commitment to tax reform, as well. And
that's something that we have been looking at, and that the Secretary of
Treasury is looking at now.

Q But I thought tax reform was supposed to be revenue neutral.

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm sorry?

Q I thought one of the parameters of your tax reform recommendations are
that it should be revenue neutral.

MR. McCLELLAN: Yes, and one of the -- one of the things that we recommended
was that they take a look at AMT reform within the context of that, as
well.

Q What's the President going to talk about this afternoon? And would you
expect him to --

MR. McCLELLAN: I talked a little bit about it earlier in the gaggle.

Q Would you expect him to mention Prime Minister Sharon in his speech this
afternoon?

MR. McCLELLAN: Let me keep you posted if there's anything new to add there.

Q Thank you.

MR. McCLELLAN: Okay, thank you.

END 1:42 P.M. EST

===========================================================================
Return to this article at:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060105-2.html

 * Origin: (1:3634/12)