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Interview of the Vice President by Hugh Hewitt
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
January 20, 2006

Interview of the Vice President by Hugh Hewitt
Via Telephone
The Hugh Hewitt Show


˙˙˙˙˙Audio

1:07 P.M. EST

Q Mr. Vice President, welcome back to the Hugh Hewitt Show. Great to have
you.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, it's good to talk to you again, Hugh.

Q We have had an astonishing run of economic good news -- fourth quarter
GDP at 4.1 percent; inflation last year only 3.4 percent; 25 years ago
today, Ronald Reagan got sworn in and inflation was 13.5 percent; 2 million
new jobs in '05; unemployment is at 4.9 percent, Mr. Cheney. But the
Congress doesn't want to renew the tax cuts that powered this beast?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I know, and it's very important that we get that done.
I think you can trace the beginning of this significant period of economic
growth back to the spring of '03, when we cut the rate on cap gains and
dividends and accelerated the rate reductions across the board. I think
that was one of the most important decisions we've made as a government,
and I think it was absolutely essential that we keep those rates going
forward.

Q Is this story being adequately told in the press? Or is it too much good
news?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, it is -- I don't think it's ever been adequately
covered in the press. I think some do cover it, obviously. But as a general
proposition, I think the mainstream press has more of a tendency to go to
try to find problems and harp on those and spend a lot of time focused on
those. I don't think it's political so much, it's just a dynamic of the way
the news business works for some of them.

But the bottom line is that a lot of people end up convinced that the
economy is not doing very well, when, in fact, it's been performing
superbly.

Q The Fed has raised rates 13 times in a row, a quarter point each time. Do
you think they're at the end of that? Do you want them to be at the end of
that?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I'm reluctant to get into the business of commenting on
Fed policy. My friend Alan Greenspan, who's been the chairman now for a
long time, advised me a long time ago not to get into the business of
predicting Fed policy or commenting on it.

I do think if you look at the performance of the Federal Reserve over the
last several years, it's been superb. They've done a good job of working
with respect to maintaining the soundness of the dollar, and avoiding a
run-up in inflation, and providing adequate funds to keep the economy
kicking along, so I don't think we've got any complaints about the way the
Fed has performed in recent years.

Q Are you concerned about the so-called housing bubble, Mr. Vice President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I don't know whether there is one, Hugh. I've seen some
speculation to that effect, and you may find some places in the country
where they might, I suppose, have a bubble effect. But I think housing has
been a tremendous investment for the American people. Most of us have a
good part of our savings or wealth tied up in our houses. And as a general
proposition, I think those have been great investments for most Americans.
And I'm not in a position today to be able to say there's a bubble out
there. I'm not really confident that there is one.

Q Now, one of the threats and not just to human life but to the economics
that define our modern condition is avian flu. Have you been involved in
the planning for the potential of the arrival of avian flu, and its
possible economic consequences, Mr. Vice President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: We have been involved in it. The President has been
heavily engaged in it, and the fact of the matter is it's one of those
potential problems on the horizon. You hope that it won't happen. On the
other hand, we have had flu pandemics in the past, especially in 1918 when
millions of people worldwide lost their lives.

And the avian flu now that we've seen in Asia and most recently in Turkey
is still primarily focused obviously on fowl, and we don't yet have the
human-to-human transmission that would be the sign of a mutation of the
virus that would lead to a pandemic. But it's something that clearly bears
watching. We've spend a lot of time planning it and looking for a response,
made congressional proposals, have active efforts underway in the executive
branch to do everything we can to be prepared for that kind of eventuality
should it happen.

Q Do you think the private sector on the economy side is prepared for this,
should it arrive here?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, it's the kind of thing I think that probably
would have a major impact, partly -- one of the things you do -- obviously,
you'd like to have everybody inoculated against this kind of eventuality.
But, frankly, right now as a result of things that have happened over the
years, we don't have flu vaccine manufacturers in sufficient numbers here
in the United States. We need to address, for example, the question of
liability in order to encourage people to get into the business. It hasn't
been all that profitable in the past.

I think also when you start to think about a pandemic, some of the early
measures basically are to shut down transportation systems, close schools
and public meeting places and so forth in order to minimize the possibility
of transmission between individuals while you take the necessary measures
to try to protect people against possible infection. So there are things
clearly that would have significant economic consequences were there to be
such a pandemic.

Q One of threats to the economy, of course, oil back up about $66, $67 per
barrel. A lot of that is related to Iran's recklessness and the
capriciousness and outright strangeness of their leader and his statements,
and today reports that they are moving assets around. Have you been
involved in planning a response to Iran going nuclear, Mr. Vice President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, the Iranian issue has been a problem that's been
on the table here for some time now. We've been working obviously and most
recently through the EU3, the Europeans -- the Germans, the Brits, and the
French -- in an effort to persuade the Iranians not to go down this road.
That effort is still underway. Obviously, to date, it has not been
successful. And the problem has gotten more pronounced since Mr.
Ahmadinejad became President and began to make some of the more outrageous
statements that he's made.

One of things I think about when we talk about the economic consequences of
a potential confrontation or crisis over the Iranian nuclear program -- of
course, people start to worry about oil again -- the thing I keep thinking
about, it would be great if we had ANWR online. That would be another
million barrels a day that would a U.S. production that would reduce our
dependence on foreign sources.

And it's unfortunate that in spite of the effort of several years and
passage through the House, we've not yet been able to get ANWR approved
through the Senate. That's exactly one of the reasons why we need an
effective energy policy that does reduce our dependence so that we are not
sort of capable of being blackmailed when confronted with something like an
irresponsible Iranian government.

Q Two nights ago, Senator Clinton said Iran must not be, in absolute terms,
allowed to have nuclear weapons. Do you agree with that absolutism on the
bar, Mr. Vice President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I think everybody agrees that the world would be
better off and safer and more secure, if the Iranians do not have nuclear
weapons. The question is, how do we get to that point? And it's easy to
make a statement, obviously, say that we've been working, the President's
been working, Secretary Rice, to achieve a diplomatic result here, and
hopefully we'll ultimately be successful. I expect there will be a meeting
of the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency here
within a couple of weeks, and ultimately potential referral of the whole
matter to the U.N. Security Council.

Q Does America keep a military option on the table, Mr. Vice President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No President should ever take the military option off
the table, if I could put it in those terms. I think it's important that
all options are on the table. And that's not a predictor of anything, it's
just as a general proposition. When you're dealing with important issues
like this, you don't want to take any options off the table.

Q Have you been involved in any planning, with regards to that, Mr. Vice
President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, I won't go beyond where I am, Hugh.

Q All right. Yesterday on CNN, Jack Cafferty suggested that the
administration may be timing the release of the Osama tape whenever bad
news rears its head. A little bit crazy, but what do you react -- what's
Dick Cheney's reaction when commentary like that comes out of a major
network?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: We don't control the release of the Osama bin Laden
tapes, Al Jazeera does, or seems to. And they were the source of this most
recent tape. I think they've been the source of virtually all of these
tapes. When the al Qaeda organization has something to say, they tend to
say it through or release it through Al Jazeera primarily in Doha, in
Qatar. And that's where we get out information, as well, is when it goes
public from Al Jazeera.

Q Do you believe there are ties between the Iranian regime and al Qaeda,
Mr. Vice President?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I wouldn't put it in those terms. I think you've got to
remember that the al Qaeda organization is primarily made up of radical
Sunni Islamists, of course, and the Iranian regime is Shia-dominated --
Shia. So there's not a natural fit there. That doesn't mean that there
haven't been relationships over the years, but I don't believe it's close.
I haven't seen any evidence of that.

Q One of the biggest objections to the NSA surveillance of al Qaeda agents
in the United States program is that the administration didn't go to FISA.
And the question keeps coming up, and I'll ask you, why not go to FISA for
some of these programs?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Well, we've made it clear that what we have is a
presidential -- the President has described it -- that what we're
interested in are intercepting communications, one end of which are outside
the United States, and one end of which we have reason to believe is al
Qaeda-related. I don't want to go into any more detail than that.

We have, we believe, all the authority we need in Article II of the
Constitution, the President's authority as Commander-in-Chief under the
Constitution, as well as previous actions of the Congress, to justify and
authorize exactly what we're doing.

We do safeguard the civil liberties of the American people. This is not a
domestic surveillance program, as it's been referred to frequently by the
press or some of our critics. It is, in fact, about communications that,
say, that involve -- at least one end of the communications involve al
Qaeda and a connection outside the U.S.

I can say for a fact that it's been a very valuable program, that it's
saved lives and let us interrupt terrorist operations. I can also say that
it's been briefed on a regular basis to the Congress, that on more than a
dozen occasions, congressional members have been informed of the status of
the program.

Q Two more questions, Mr. Vice President. Robert Kaplan has written a new
book, Imperial Grunts. I don't know if you had a chance to read it yet.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I haven't seen it yet.

Q He argues that big army is quashing the initiative in places like the
Afghan-Pakistan border of the Special Forces. Do you believe that's a
correct criticism?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Big army?

Q Yes, you know, Pentagon, too much brass, too much --

THE VICE PRESIDENT: No, I would disagree with that. I think our special ops
forces these days are superb, better than they've ever been -- highly
skilled and highly trained and highly motivated. I've had the opportunity
to spend some time with them. A lot of what they do is classified. And it
may be that the knowledge is lacking out there in terms of exactly how good
they are. But I think the special ops forces that we field in places like
Iraq and Afghanistan are superb.

Q My last question, Mr. Vice President, Jerry Tardy (ph) is my next door
neighbor, he's an old basketball coach. He keeps asking me, any way to
persuade the Vice President to reconsider not running in '08? So I'll ask
you, any way?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: I'm very happy where I'm at. I've got three more years
to go, serve this President, and then I expect to hit the road. I've got
other things I need to do at that point. It will have been nearly 40 years
since I arrived in Washington to stay 12 months, and I think that's
probably long enough.

Q Mr. Vice President, thanks for your time today. I look forward to talking
to you again.

THE VICE PRESIDENT: Okay, Hugh, good to talk to you.

Q Thank you, sir.

END 1:19 P.M. EST

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