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Press Conference by the President
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For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
February 14, 2007
Press Conference by the President
The East Room
President's Remarks
11:01 A.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for coming in on an icy day. I have just finished a
conversation with General David Petraeus. He gave me his first briefing
from Iraq. He talked about the Baghdad security plan. It's the plan that I
described to the nation last January, and it's a plan that's beginning to
take shape. General Petraeus and General Odierno talked about how the fact
that the Iraqi government is following through on its commitment to deploy
three additional army brigades, Iraqi army brigades in the capital. We
talked about where those troops are being deployed, the position of U.S.
troops with them, as well as the embeds with the Iraqi troops, and we
talked about the plan.
He also talked about the new Iraqi commander. The commander who Prime
Minister Maliki picked to operate the Baghdad security plan is in place;
they're setting up a headquarters and they're in the process of being in a
position to be able to coordinate all forces. In other words, there's still
some work to be done there to get the command and control center up and
running in Baghdad.
We talked about the fact that our coalition troops that are heading into
Baghdad will be arriving on time. In other words, I'm paying attention to
the schedule of troop deployments to make sure that they're there, so that
General Petraeus will have the troops to do the job -- the number of troops
to do the job that we've asked him to do.
We talked about the coordination between Iraqi and coalition forces. And I
would characterize their assessment as the coordination is good. In other
words, there's good conversation, constant conversation between the
commanders of our troops and their troops, and that's a positive
development.
The operation to secure Baghdad is going to take time, and there will be
violence. We saw on our TV screens the terrorists will send car bombs into
crowded markets. In other words, these are people that will kill innocent
men, women and children to achieve their objective, which is to discourage
the Iraqi people, to foment sectarian violence and to, frankly, discourage
us from helping this government do its job.
Yesterday there was a suicide bomber. In other words, there's an active
strategy to undermine the Maliki government and its Baghdad security plan.
And our generals understand that, they know that they're all aimed at,
frankly, causing people here in America to say it's not worth it. And I can
understand why people are concerned when they turn on the TV screens and
see this violence. It's disturbing to people, and it's disturbing to the
Iraqi people. But it reminds me of how important it is for us to help them
succeed. If you think the violence is bad now, imagine what it would look
like if we don't help them secure the city, the capital city of Baghdad.
I fully recognize we're not going to be able to stop all suicide bombers. I
know that. But we can help secure that capital; help the Iraqis secure that
capital so that people have a sense of normalcy -- in other words, that
they're able to get a better sense that this government of theirs will
provide security. People want to live in peace; they want to grow up in a
peaceful environment. And the decision I made is going to help the Iraqi
government do that.
When General Petraeus' nomination was considered three weeks ago, the
United States Senate voted unanimously to confirm him, and I appreciated
that vote by the senators. And now members of the House of Representatives
are debating a resolution that would express disapproval of the plan that
General Petraeus is carrying out. You know, in recent months, I've
discussed our strategy in Iraq with members of Congress from both political
parties. Many have told me that they're dissatisfied with the situation in
Iraq. I told them I was dissatisfied with the situation in Iraq. And that's
why I ordered a comprehensive review of our strategy.
I've listened to a lot of voices; people in my administration heard a lot
of voices. We weighed every option. I concluded that to step back from the
fight in Baghdad would have disastrous consequences for people in America.
That's the conclusion I came to. It's the conclusion members of my staff
came to. It's the conclusion that a lot in the military came to.
And the reason why I say "disastrous consequences," the Iraqi government
could collapse, chaos would spread, there would be a vacuum, into the
vacuum would flow more extremists, more radicals, people who have stated
intent to hurt our people. I believe that success in Baghdad will have
success in helping us secure the homeland.
What's different about this conflict than some others is that if we fail
there, the enemy will follow us here. I firmly believe that. And that's one
of the main reasons why I made the decision I made. And so we will help
this Iraqi government succeed. And the first step for success is to do
something about the sectarian violence in Baghdad so they can have
breathing space in order to do the political work necessary to assure the
different factions in Baghdad, factions that are recovering from years of
tyranny, that there is a hopeful future for them and their families. I
would call that political breathing space.
And by providing this political breathing space, in other words, giving the
Maliki government a chance to reconcile and do the work necessary to
achieve reconciliation, it'll hasten the day in which we can change our
force posture in Iraq. A successful strategy obviously -- a successful
security strategy in Bagdad requires more than just military action. I
mean, people have to see tangible results in their lives. They have to see
something better. They not only have to feel secure where they live, but
they've got to see positive things taking place.
The other day, the Iraqi government passed a $41 billion budget, $10
billion of which is for reconstruction and capital investment. There's a
lot of talk in Washington about benchmarks. I agree -- "benchmarks" meaning
that the Iraqi government said they're going to do this; for example, have
an oil law as a benchmark. But one of the benchmarks they laid out, besides
committing troops to the Iraqi security plan, was that they'll pass a
budget in which there's $10 billion of their own money available for
reconstruction and help. And they met the benchmark. And now, obviously,
it's important they spend the money wisely.
They're in the process of finalizing a law that will allow for the sharing
of all revenues among Iraq's peoples. In my talks with members of Congress,
some have agreed with what I'm doing, many who didn't -- they all, though,
believe it's important for the Iraqi government to set benchmarks and
achieve those benchmarks. And one benchmark we've all discussed was making
it clear to the Iraqi people that they have a stake in the future of their
country by having a stake in the oil revenues. And so the government is in
the process of getting an oil revenue law that will help unify the country.
The Iraqi government is making progress on reforms that will allow more of
its citizens to reenter political life. Obviously, I'm paying close
attention to whether or not the government is meeting these benchmarks, and
will continue to remind Prime Minister Maliki that he must do so.
We've given our civilians and commanders greater flexibility to fund our
economic assistance money. Part of the strategy in Baghdad is to clear, and
then to hold, and then to build. We've been pretty good about clearing in
the past; we haven't been good about holding -- "we" being the Iraqis and
coalition forces. So we spent time today talking to General Petraeus about
the need, his need and his understanding of the need to hold neighborhoods
so that the people, themselves, in the capital city feel more secure.
But also part of the strategy is to make sure that we build. So we're
giving our commanders flexibility with reconstruction money that they have
at their disposal. We're also sending more PRTs, provincial reconstruction
teams, into Iraq, trying to speed up their arrival into Iraq so that the
Iraqi people see tangible benefits from the government that they elected
under one of the most progressive constitutions in the Middle East.
Later this week the House of Representatives will vote on a resolution that
opposes our new plan in Iraq -- before it has a chance to work. People are
prejudging the outcome of this. They have every right to express their
opinion, and it is a non-binding resolution. Soon Congress is going to be
able to vote on a piece of legislation that is binding, a bill providing
emergency funding for our troops. Our troops are counting on their elected
leaders in Washington, D.C. to provide them with the support they need to
do their mission. We have a responsibility, all of us here in Washington,
to make sure that our men and women in uniform have the resources and the
flexibility they need to prevail.
Before I'm going to take some questions, I'd like to comment about one
other diplomatic development, and that took place in the Far East. At the
six-party talks in Beijing, North Korea agreed to specific actions that
will bring us closer to a Korea Peninsula that is free of nuclear weapons.
Specifically, North Korea agreed that within 60 days it will shut down and
seal all operations at the primary nuclear facilities it has used to
produce weapons-grade plutonium. It has agreed to allow international
inspectors to verify and monitor this progress. It is committed to
disclosing all of its nuclear programs as an initial step toward abandoning
these programs.
In exchange, five other parties at the table -- that would be China,
Russia, Japan, South Korea and the United States -- have got commitments.
We will meet those commitments as this agreement is honored. Those
commitments include economic, humanitarian and energy assistance to the
people of North Korea.
This is a unique deal. First of all, unlike any other agreement, it brings
together all of North Korea's neighbors in the region, as well as the
United States. The agreement is backed by a United Nations Security Council
resolution. That resolution came about -- the sanctions came about as a
result of the resolution because of a unanimous vote in the Security
Council.
This is good progress. It is a good first step. There's a lot of work to be
done to make sure that the commitments made in this agreement become
reality, but I believe it's an important step in the right direction.
And with that, I'll be glad to take your questions, starting with you,
Terry.
Q Mr. President, on Russia. Is the Vladimir Putin who said the United
States is undermining global security and provoking a new arms race the
same Vladimir Putin whose soul you looked into and found to be trustworthy?
Has he changed? Are U.S.-Russian relations deteriorating?
THE PRESIDENT: I think the person who I was referring to in 2001 is the
same strong-willed person. He is a person with whom I have had agreements
and disagreements throughout the course of my presidency and his. We've
disagreed on the utility of NATO. I've tried to convince Vladimir that NATO
is positive. It's a positive influence, that democracies on your border are
good things to have. The democracies tend not to fight each other. And I
firmly believe NATO is a stabilizing influence for the good, and that helps
Russia. Evidently he disagrees with that assessment; part of his speech was
expressing concerns about NATO.
There's a lot we can work together on, and that's what's important for
American people to understand. We know that we've got common goals that
make sense for both our peoples. Two such goals are Iran, convincing the
Iranians to get rid of its nuclear weapons. And Russia's leadership on this
issue is very important to getting a Chapter 7 Resolution out of the United
Nations. And by the way, they were constructive in terms of the resolution
I just described about North Korea. In other words, where we have common
interests, and we work together on those common interests, we can
accomplish important things for the security of our own people, as well as
the security of the world.
And, secondly, Russia and the United States work very closely on
proliferation concerns. We're both concerned about the proliferation of
technologies that could end up hurting our people and other people in the
world.
So there's -- it's a complicated relationship. It's a relationship in which
there are disagreements, but there's also a relationship in which we can
find common ground to solve problems. And that's the spirit -- that's the
spirit I'll continue to work with Vladimir Putin on.
Steve.
Q Thank you, sir. General Pace says that these bombs found in Iraq do not,
by themselves, implicate Iran. What makes you so certain that the highest
levels of Tehran's government is responsible?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes --
Q And how can you retaliate against Iran without risking a war?
THE PRESIDENT: What we do know is that the Quds force was instrumental in
providing these deadly IEDs to networks inside of Iraq. We know that. And
we also know that the Quds force is a part of the Iranian government.
That's a known. What we don't know is whether or not the head leaders of
Iran ordered the Quds force to do what they did.
But here's my point: Either they knew or didn't know, and what matters is,
is that they're there. What's worse, that the government knew or that the
government didn't know? But the point I made in my initial speech in the
White House about Iraq was, is that we know they're there and we're going
to protect our troops. When we find the networks that are enabling these
weapons to end up in Iraq, we will deal with them. If we find agents who
are moving these devices into Iraq, we will deal with them. I have put out
the command to our troops -- I mean, to the people who are commanders, that
we'll protect the soldiers of the United States and innocent people in Iraq
and will continue doing so.
Now, let me step back on Iran, itself. We have a comprehensive strategy to
deal with Iraq [sic]. There's a variety of issues that we have with Iraq
[sic]. One, of course, is influence inside of Iraq. Another is whether or
not they end up with a nuclear weapon. And I believe an Iran with a nuclear
weapon would be very dangerous for world peace, and have worked with other
nations of like mind. And it turns out there's a lot of countries in the
world that agree with that assessment. After all, we did get a Chapter 7
Resolution out of the United Nations that included EU3, as well as Russia
and China. That's a positive development.
The message to the Iranian people is that your leaders are making decisions
that are isolating you in the world, thereby denying you a brighter future.
And I believe Iran is an unbelievably vital nation. It's got a great
history, it's got wonderful traditions, it's got very capable, smart
people. There is -- I believe there's also a desire to not be isolated from
the world. And our policies are all aimed at convincing the Iranian people
there's a better way forward, and I hope their government hears that
message.
Anyway, that's a long answer to a short question, and now you're trying to
get to me to -- Gregory. Excuse me, David. David.
Q Thank you, sir. I'd like to follow on Iran. Critics say that you are
using the same quality of intelligence about Iran that you used to make the
case for war in Iraq, specifically about WMD that turned out to be wrong,
and that you are doing that to make a case for war against Iran. Is that
the case?
THE PRESIDENT: I can say with certainty that the Quds force, a part of the
Iranian government, has provided these sophisticated IEDs that have harmed
our troops. And I'd like to repeat, I do not know whether or not the Quds
force was ordered from the top echelons of government. But my point is
what's worse -- them ordering it and it happening, or them not ordering it
and it happening? And so we will continue to protect our troops.
David, our strategy is comprehensive in order to resolve problems that will
affect our own peace and the peace in the world. And the biggest problem I
see is the Iranians' desire to have a nuclear weapon. As you know, we've
been dealing with this issue ever since you've been covering me, and pretty
much ever since I've been the President. And we've made it very clear to
the Iranians that if they would like to have a dialogue with the United
States, there needs to be a verifiable suspension of their program. I would
hope that they would do that. I would like to be at the -- have been given
a chance for us to explain that we have no desire to harm the Iranian
people.
But my focus is on making sure that this weapon is dealt with, the program
is dealt with in a constructive, peaceful way. And we'll continue to work
toward achieving our common objective with other nations in the world in a
peaceful way.
Sheryl.
Q -- using faulty intelligence to provoke Iran?
THE PRESIDENT: No, I heard your question, and I told you, I was confident
that the Quds force, a part of the Iranian government, was providing
weaponry into Iraq. And to say it is provoking Iran is just a wrong way to
characterize the Commander-in-Chief's decision to do what is necessary to
protect our soldiers in harm's way. And I will continue to do so.
Bret.
Q Mr. President, on the North Korea deal, the former U.N. Ambassador, John
Bolton, yesterday said, "It's a bad, disappointing deal, and the best thing
you can say about it is that it will probably fall apart." This is from a
man you repeatedly praised for his judgment and leadership at the United
Nations. His main criticism is that the financial pressure led North Korea
back to the table, and now it's being released. How do you respond to that?
THE PRESIDENT: I strongly disagree -- strongly disagree with his
assessment. I have told the American people, like the Iranian issue, I
wanted to solve the North Korean issue peacefully, and that the President
has an obligation to try all diplomatic means necessary to do so. I changed
the dynamic on the North Korean issue by convincing other people to be at
the table with us, on the theory that the best diplomacy is diplomacy in
which there is more than one voice -- that has got an equity in the issue
-- speaking.
And so we had a breakthrough as a result of other voices in the United
States saying to the North Koreans, we don't support your nuclear weapons
program and we urge you to get rid of it in a verifiable way. Perhaps the
most significant voice that had been added to the table was China. But the
South Korean voice was vital, as was the Japanese and Russian voices, as
well. So the assessment made by some that this is not a good deal is just
flat wrong.
Now those who say the North Koreans have got to prove themselves by
actually following through on the deal are right. And I'm one. This is a
good first step. It will be a great deal for the North Korean people if
their government follows through with the agreement, which, by the way,
started in September of 2005. The agreement that we announced the other day
was a continuation of the initial agreement in September of 2005. And for
those who say that, well, this is an interesting moment and now it's up to
the North Koreans to do that which they say they will do, I couldn't agree
more with you.
And the first phase is to shut down and seal their facility, their main
weapons manufacturing facility, and then disclose their programs. And for
that, they'll receive some help from the South Koreans -- the equivalent of
50,000 tons of fuel.
And the second phase is to disable and abandon their facilities. In other
words, this is a phased approach that will enable all of us to say to our
respective populations we're watching carefully, and that there's an
opportunity for the North Koreans to prove that this program can work.
If they do the second phase, there is a -- there will be about the
equivalent of a million tons, minus the 50,000 tons, available food,
economic assistance and fuel. I am particularly interested in helping get
food to the North Korean people. Now, that's not going to happen until
there's some verifiable measures that have been taken.
The financial measures that you're speaking about are really a separate
item, because it has everything to do with -- it's a banking issue that our
Treasury Department is analyzing to determine whether or not funds were
illicitly moved through the bank.
Let's see, yes, sir.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. I want to follow up on Iran one more time. You
saying today that you do not know if senior members of the Iranian
government are, in fact, behind these explosives -- that contradicts what
U.S. officials said in Baghdad on Sunday. They said the highest levels of
the Iranian government were behind this. It also -- it seems to square with
what General Pace has been saying, but contradicts with what your own press
secretary said yesterday.
THE PRESIDENT: Can I -- let me -- I can't say it more plainly: there are
weapons in Iraq that are harming U.S. troops because of the Quds force. And
as you know, I hope, that the Quds force is a part of the Iranian
government. Whether Ahmadinejad ordered the Quds force to do this, I don't
think we know. But we do know that they're there, and I intend to do
something about it. And I've asked our commanders to do something about it.
And we're going to protect our troops.
Q But given some of contradictions, Mr. President --
THE PRESIDENT: There's no contradiction that the weapons are there and they
were provided by the Quds force, Ed.
Q What assurances can you give the American people that the intelligence
this time will be accurate?
THE PRESIDENT: Ed, we know they're there, we know they're provided by the
Quds force. We know the Quds force is a part of the Iranian government. I
don't think we know who picked up the phone and said to the Quds force, go
do this, but we know it's a vital part of the Iranian government.
What matters is, is that we're responding. The idea that somehow we're
manufacturing the idea that the Iranians are providing IEDs is
preposterous, Ed. My job is to protect our troops. And when we find devices
that are in that country that are hurting our troops, we're going to do
something about it, pure and simple.
Now David says, does this mean you're trying to have a pretext for war? No.
It means I'm trying to protect our troops. That's what that means. And
that's what the family members of our soldiers expect the
Commander-in-Chief and those responsible for -- responsible for our troops
on the ground. And we'll continue do so.
Yes, ma'am. You're not a "ma'am." Martha.
Q Mr. President, do you agree with the National Intelligence Estimate that
we are now in a civil war in Iraq? And, also, you talk about victory, that
you have to have victory in Iraq; it would be catastrophic if we didn't.
You said again today that the enemy would come here, and yet you say it's
not an open-ended commitment. How do you square those things?
THE PRESIDENT: You know, victory in Iraq is not going to be like victory in
World War II. It's one of the challenges I have to explain to the American
people what Iraq will look like in a situation that will enable us to say
we have accomplished our mission.
First, the -- Iraq will be a society in which there is relative peace. I
say "relative peace" because if it's like zero car bombings, it never will
happen that way. It's like -- the fundamental question is, can we help this
government have the security force level necessary to make sure that the
ethnic cleansing that was taking place in certain neighborhoods has
stopped.
Look, there's criminality in Iraq, as well as the ethnic violence. And
we've got to help the Iraqis have a police force that deals with criminals.
There is an al Qaeda presence in Iraq, as you know. I believe some of the
spectacular bombings have been caused by al Qaeda. As a matter of fact,
Zarqawi -- the terrorist Zarqawi, who is not an Iraqi, made it very clear
that he intended to use violence to spur sectarian -- car bombings and
spectacular violence to spur sectarian violence. And he did a good job of
it.
And so there -- and then there's this disaffected Sunnis, people who
believe that they should still be in power in spite of the fact that the
Shia are the majority of the country, and they're willing to use violence
to try to create enough chaos so they get back in power.
The reason I described that is that no matter what you call it, it's a
complex situation, and it needed to be dealt with inside of Iraq. We've got
people who say civil war, we've got people on the ground who don't believe
it's a civil war. But nevertheless, it is -- it was dangerous enough that I
had to make a decision to try to stop it, so that a government that is
bound by a constitution, where the country feels relatively secure as a
result of a security force that is even-handed in its application of
security; a place where the vast resources of the country -- this is a
relatively wealthy country, in that they've got a lot of hydrocarbons -- is
shared equally amongst people; that there is a federalism that evolves
under the Constitution where the local provinces have got authority, as
well; and where people who may have made a political decision in the past
and yet weren't criminals can participate in the life of the country; and
is an ally in the war on terror. In other words, that there is a bulwark
for moderation, as opposed to a safe haven for extremism. And that's what I
would view as successful.
Q Do you believe it's a civil war, sir?
THE PRESIDENT: I can only tell you what people on the ground, whose
judgment -- it's hard for me, living in this beautiful White House, to give
you an assessment, firsthand assessment. I haven't been there; you have, I
haven't. But I do talk to people who are and people whose judgment I trust,
and they would not qualify it as that. There are others who think it is. It
is, however, a dangerous situation, thereby requiring action on my part.
Listen, I considered several options -- one, doing nothing, and that if you
don't believe the situation was acceptable, then you should do something.
And I didn't believe the situation was acceptable. Secondly, I could have
listened to the advice of some and pulled back and hoped for the best. I
felt that would be extraordinarily dangerous for this young democracy, that
the violence in Baghdad could escalate mightily and then spill out across
the country, creating chaos, vacuums into which extremism would flow; or
make the decision I made, which is to reinforce the troops that were on the
ground, to help this Iraqi government and security force do what they're
supposed to do.
Sir. You dropped?
Q Bad hands. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: You know, you got the Blackberry and everything there.
Q I'd like to ask you about troop morale.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
Q As you know, a growing number of troops are on their second, third or
fourth tour in Iraq. There have been a growing number of reports about
declining morale among fighting men. I spoke personally to an infantry
commander -- tough guy, patriot -- who says more and more of the troops are
asking, questioning what they're doing here. Does this come as a surprise
to you? Are you aware of this? Is it a minority opinion, is it a growing
opinion, and does it concern you?
THE PRESIDENT: I am -- what I hear from commanders is that the place where
there is concern is with the family members; that our troops, who have
volunteered to serve the country, are willing to go into combat multiple
times, but that the concern is with the people on the home front. And I can
understand that. And I -- and that's one reason I go out of my way to
constantly thank the family members. You know, I'm asking -- you're
obviously talking to certain people, or a person. I'm talking to our
commanders. Their job is to tell me what -- the situation on the ground.
And I have -- I know there's concern about the home front. I haven't heard
deep concern about the morale of the troops in Iraq.
Q -- tell you?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, they'd tell me that. Sure, absolutely. Just like they
told me that they thought they needed extra troops to do the job. Sure.
Listen, I want our troops out of there as quickly as possible. But I also
want to make sure that we get the job done. And I made the decision I made
in order to do so.
Jim.
Q You spoke positively about the role of diplomacy in North Korea, and you
obviously gave it a long time to work. Where does diplomacy fit in, in
terms of Iran, and do we have any leverage if we try diplomacy there?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I guess you could call getting the EU3, China and
Russia on the same page on a Chapter 7 Resolution successful diplomacy. I
thought that was diplomacy. And it took a long time to get there. I mean,
we're working hard to send a concerted message to the Iranians -- a
focused, unified message that the world believes you should not have a
nuclear program. And so this is a multilateral approach to try to get the
government to alter its course on a nuclear weapons program.
I can't think of any more robust diplomacy than to have more than one party
at the table talking to the Iranians. And we did so through the United
Nations in this case. If they want us at the table, we're more than willing
to come, but there must be a verifiable suspension of this weapons program
that is causing such grave concern.
We'll continue to work with other nations. Matter of fact, I believe that
it is easier for the United States to achieve certain diplomatic objectives
when we work with other nations, which is precisely why we adopted the
strategy we did in dealing with the Iranians.
Sheryl.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, it seems pretty clear where this
Iraq vote in the House is headed. Your press secretary has said repeatedly
that members of Congress ought to watch what they say and be concerned
about the message that they're sending to our enemy. I'm wondering, do you
believe that a vote of disapproval of your policy emboldens the enemy? Does
it undermine your ability to carry out your policies there? And, also, what
are you doing to persuade the Democratic leadership in Congress not to
restrict your ability to spend money in Iraq?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, thanks. A couple of points. One, that I understand the
Congress is going to express their opinion, and it's very clear where the
Democrats are, and some Republicans; I know that. They didn't like the
decision I made. And by the way, that doesn't mean that I think that
they're not good, honorable citizens of the country. I just have a
different opinion. I considered some of their opinions and felt like it
would not lead to a country that could govern itself, sustain itself, and
be an ally in the war on terror. One.
Secondly, my hope, however, is that this non-binding resolution doesn't try
to turn into a binding policy that prevents our troops from doing that
which I have asked them to do. That's why I keep reminding people, on the
one hand you vote for David Petraeus in a unanimous way, and then the other
hand you say that you're not going to fund the strategy that he thought was
necessary to do his job, a strategy he testified to in front of the Senate.
I'm going to make it very clear to the members of Congress, starting now,
that they need to fund our troops and they need to make sure we have the
flexibility necessary to get the job done.
Secondly, I find it interesting that there is a declaration about a plan
that they have not given a chance to work. Again, I understand, I
understand. The other part of your question?
Q It emboldens --
THE PRESIDENT: The only thing I can tell you is that when I speak, I'm very
conscience [sic] about the audiences that are listening to my words. The
first audience, obviously, is the American people. The second audience
would be the troops and their families. That's why I appreciate the
question about whether or not -- about the troop morale, it gave me a
chance to talk to the families and how proud we are of them.
Third, no question people are watching what happens here in America. The
enemy listens to what's happening, the Iraqi people listen to the words,
the Iranians. People are wondering; they're wondering about our commitment
to this cause. And one reason they wonder is that in a violent society, the
people sometimes don't take risks for peace if they're worried about having
to choose between different sides, different violent factions. As to
whether or not this particular resolution is going to impact enemy thought,
I can't tell you that.
But I can tell you that people are watching the debate. I do believe that
the decision I made surprised people in the Middle East. And I think it's
going to be very important, however, that the Iraqi government understand
that this decision was not an open-ended commitment, that we expect Prime
Minister Maliki to continue to make the hard decisions he's making.
Unlike some here, I'm a little more tolerant of a person who has been only
in government for seven months and hasn't had a lot of -- and by the way, a
government that hasn't had a lot of experience with democracy. And on the
other hand, it's important for him to know, and I believe he does know,
that the American people want to see some action and some positive results.
And listen, I share that same desire.
The faster that the Maliki government steps up security in Baghdad, the
more quickly we can get to what Baker-Hamilton recommended, and that is
embedding and training over the rise in presence, protection of the
territorial integrity of Iraq, and a strong hunt for al Qaeda, and
terrorists who would try to use that country as safe haven. I thought the
Baker-Hamilton made a lot of sense, their recommendations. We just weren't
able to get there if the capital was up in flames. That's why I made the
decision I made.
Yes, Peter.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. Sir, we've now learned through sworn testimony
that at least three members of your administration, other than Scooter
Libby, leaked Valerie Plame's identity to the media. None of these three is
known to be under investigation. Without commenting on the Libby trial,
then, can you tell us whether you authorized any of these three to do that,
or were they authorized without your permission?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, thanks, Pete. I'm not going to talk about any of it.
Q They're not under investigation, though?
THE PRESIDENT: Peter, I'm not going to talk about any of it.
Q How about pardons, sir? Many people are asking whether you might pardon
--
THE PRESIDENT: Not going to talk about it, Peter. (Laughter.) Would you
like to think of another question? Being the kind man that I am, I will
recycle you. (Laughter.)
John.
Q Thank you --
THE PRESIDENT: You like that one? "Recycling" him. (Laughter.)
Q That took care of one of my questions, as well, sir.
THE PRESIDENT: If that's the case, sit down. Next question. (Laughter.)
Q A lot of our allies in Europe do a lot of business with Iran, so I wonder
what your thoughts are about how you further tighten the financial pressure
on Iran, in particular, if it also means economic pain for a lot of our
allies?
THE PRESIDENT: It's an interesting question. One of the problems -- not
specifically on this issue, just in general -- let's put it this way, money
trumps peace, sometimes. In other words, commercial interests are very
powerful interests throughout the world. And part of the issue in
convincing people to put sanctions on a specific country is to convince
them that it's in the world's interest that they forgo their own financial
interest.
And John, that's why sometimes it's tough to get tough economic sanctions
on countries. And I'm not making any comment about any particular country,
but you touched on a very interesting point.
And so, therefore, we're constantly working with nations to convince them
that what really matters in the long run is to have the environment so
peace can flourish. In the Iranian case, I firmly believe that if they were
to have a weapon, it would make it difficult for peace to flourish. And,
therefore, I'm working with people to make sure that that concern trumps
whatever commercial interests may be preventing governments from acting. I
make no specific accusation with that statement. It's a broad statement.
But it's an accurate assessment of what sometimes can halt multilateral
diplomacy from working.
Let's see here. Ann.
Q Thank you. Iraq is not only being debated in Congress, but it's going to
be debated in the presidential election that's coming ahead. Is that debate
-- is there a chance that that is going to hurt your progress in Iraq? And
is it appropriate at some point, perhaps, for the government to brief the
presidential candidates so they have a better understanding of what it is
you're trying to do?
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you for that question. I thought for a minute you were
going to try to get me to comment on the presidential race, and I'd just
like to establish some ground rules here with those of you who are stuck
following me for the next little less than two years: I will resist all
temptation to become the pundit-in-chief and commenting upon every twist
and turn of the presidential campaign. As much as I like politics, and I'm
intrigued by the race -- it's very similar to how I deftly handled Baker's
question -- I won't comment.
Secondly, I remember a member of Congress came to me before one of my
speeches -- I think it was the Iraq speech, as opposed to the State of the
Union speech, and said, you'd better be eloquent in order to convince the
American people to support this plan. He didn't say "articulate," he said,
"eloquent." (Laughter.) And my point to the person was, what really matters
is what happens on the ground. I can talk all day long, but what really
matters to the American people is to see progress -- which leads to your
point, Martha -- and that is, progress can best be measured by whether or
not the people can see noticeable changes of security inside the capital
city. In this case, the Baghdad security plan has got to yield peace in
certain mixed neighborhoods, for example.
And so, therefore, to the extent that it affects votes, speeches,
perceptions, elections, what really is going to matter is what happens,
ultimately. And that's all I really care to comment about it. You know,
it's --
Q -- reelection --
THE PRESIDENT: I'm not running. (Laughter.) And I know that's going to
disappoint some of you. But, anyway, that's pundit-in-chief type questions,
so I'm not going to answer those. You're trying to get me to be
pundit-in-chief.
Let's see here. Hutch.
Q Good morning.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, thanks.
Q I'd like to follow on Sheryl's question about undermining the troops. Do
you have to support the war to support the war here? I mean, if you're one
of those Americans that thinks you've made a terrible mistake, that it's
destined to end badly, what do you do? If they speak out, are they by
definition undermining the troops?
THE PRESIDENT: No, she actually asked "the enemy," not "the troops." But
I'll be glad to answer your question. No, I don't think so at all. I think
you can be against my decision and support the troops, absolutely. But the
proof will be whether or not you provide them the money necessary to do the
mission.
I said early in my comment -- my answer to Sheryl was, somebody who doesn't
agree with my policy is just as patriotic a person as I am. Your question
is valid. Can somebody say, we disagree with your tactics or strategy, but
we support the military -- absolutely, sure. But what's going to be
interesting is if they don't provide the flexibility and support for our
troops that are there to enforce the strategy that David Petraeus, the
general on the ground, thinks is necessary to accomplish the mission.
Michael. Michael, who do you work for? (Laughter.)
Q Mr. President, I work for Politico.com.
THE PRESIDENT: Pardon me? Politico.com?
Q Yes, sir. Today. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: You want a moment to explain to the American people exactly
what -- (laughter.)
Q Mr. President, thank you for the question. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Quit being so evasive.
Q You should read it.
THE PRESIDENT: Is it good? You like it?
Q David Gregory --
THE PRESIDENT: David Gregory likes it. I can see the making of a
testimonial. (Laughter.) Anyway, go ahead, please.
Q Thank you, Mr. President. You spoke hopefully about your ability to work
with Democrats, their willingness to work with you in this new world. I
wonder how that's going so far, what you've learned about how they think,
and does the current debate constitute grounds for divorce?
THE PRESIDENT: Interesting way to put it. First of all, I think they're
patriotic people who care about our country -- back to Hutch's penetrating
comment, or question. I do. I was very appreciative of the reception I got
at the State of the Union. It was a cordial, respectful reception that gave
me the chance to talk about what I believe. I was also very grateful for
the reception I received at the Democratic retreat that I went to there in
Virginia.
You know, my impression of the meeting there was that we share a lot in
common; we're people that actually put filing papers down and ran for
office, we were willing to put our families through the grind of politics,
we wanted to serve our country, that we care deeply about what takes place
in Washington, America and the world.
My hope is, is that we can get positive pieces of legislation passed. I
think there's a lot of expectation that the difference of opinion on Iraq
would make it impossible for us to work on other areas. I disagree with
that assessment. And I hope I'm right, and the best way to determine
whether I'm right is will I be able to sign legislation that we have been
able to work on.
One such piece of policy is a balanced budget. There seems to be agreement
that we should have a balanced budget. I laid out one way forward to
achieve that balance. And it shows that we can balance the budget without
raising taxes and do so in a five-year horizon. And I'd like to work with
the Democrat leadership, as well as, obviously, my Republican folks, to get
it done.
Secondly, an interesting opportunity is immigration. As you know, I
strongly believe that we need to enforce our borders and that -- and have
taken steps to do so. But I also believe that in order to enforce the
borders, we need a temporary worker program so that people don't try to
sneak in the country to work, that they can come in an orderly fashion, and
take the pressure off the Border Patrol agents that we've got out there, so
that the Border Patrol agents don't focus on workers that are doing jobs
Americans aren't doing, but are focusing on terrorists and criminal
elements, gun runners, to keep the country -- both our countries safe --
Mexico and the United States safe.
I also know that we need to deal with the people who are here -- the 12
million people who are here illegally. I have said multiple times that we
can't kick them out of our country. It doesn't make any sense to me to try
to do that, and I don't think -- maybe some feel that way, but I don't feel
that way. But I also don't believe we should give them automatic amnesty --
automatic citizenship, which I view as amnesty. And look forward to working
with Democrats and Republicans to have a comprehensive immigration plan.
Energy is an opportunity for us to work together. We've done a lot of work
in the past on promoting alterative sources of energy. America has done
more than any nation in the world in promoting alternatives and renewables,
all aiming to make sure our economy grows, that we have energy
independence, and that we're good stewards of the environment. And I look
forward to working with the Democrats on the Energy Independence Initiative
I laid out.
One such initiative was the mandatory fuel standards that relies upon
alternative fuel to power automobiles. Ethanol is the first and most
notable place where we can start, but we also need to spend monies to
develop technologies that will enable us to make energy out of products
other than corn -- switchgrass or wood chips, for example.
The problem with relying only on corn is that -- by the way, when the
demand for corn stays high, the price tends to go up, and your hog farmer
gets disgruntled with the alternative energy plan. And, therefore, what's
going to matter is that new technologies come online as quickly as possible
to take the pressure off of corn ethanol, or corn, as a result of being
used in ethanol, and we can work with Congress to do that. That's an area
we can work.
Health care. I got a letter the other day from a group of Republican and
Democrat senators talking about the desire to work on health care. And they
liked some of my ideas. But my only point is that there's an opportunity
for us to work together to help the uninsured have private insurance so
they can be -- so they can get good health care. And there's an opportunity
to work together there.
The governors are coming into town soon, and I'm going to have Secretary
Leavitt describe to them the affordable grants program that is a part of
our comprehensive approach, including rewriting the tax code.
Finally, No Child Left Behind needs to be reauthorized. I fully understand
that if you read your newspaper articles -- which I do sometimes -- and
listen carefully, you'll hear voices in both parties saying they don't like
No Child Left Behind --it's too much testing, or, we don't want to be held
to account, or whatever they say. The bill is working. It makes a lot of
sense.
There's an income gap in America that I talked about when I went to Wall
Street. And what's clear to me is that our kids have got to have education
so that in this global economy, the jobs of the 21st century stay here at
home. And it starts with good education. And, therefore, I will argue
vociferously the No Child Left Behind Act needs to be reauthorized, it's
working, it's an important piece of legislation, and will reach out to
Democrat members, as well as Republican members, to get this bill
reauthorized.
And so there's a lot of areas, Mike. I'd say it's a little early in the
process. This is a two-year term. We've got time to work together to get
important pieces of legislation done. And I'd like to start. As a matter of
fact, this afternoon I've got members of both parties, both chambers coming
down to visit about how we can continue to work together to get some
legislation done.
As I told the Democrats, and as the Democrats have made clear to me in my
visits, that neither of us are going to abandon our principles, that I
don't expect them to change their principles and they shouldn't expect me
to. But there's ways for us to work together to achieve legislative
successes for the common good. That's what the American people want to see,
and that's what I believe we can do. Is it going to take work? Yes, it's
going to take work. But it's okay, that's why you pay us all this money.
Richard.
Q Thank you, Mr. President.
THE PRESIDENT: Last question, then I've got to go have lunch with Bob
Gates, Secretary of the Defense.
What are you looking at? Checking the time? For the viewer out there --
you're getting a big -- timekeeper and everything. (Laughter.)
Q I don't mean to interrupt. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: I just thought he was looking at the watch because he was
getting bored. I wasn't sure, you know?
Q I'm never bored.
THE PRESIDENT: Remember the debates?
Q Yes.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes. (Laughter.)
Q Mr. President, Republican and Democratic Presidents before you sat down
for face-to-face talks with the Soviet Union, a nation that was clearly
hostile, tyrannical, and had a huge nuclear arsenal. Why do you think that
face-to-face talks between yourself and the leadership of Iran would be any
more compromising for you?
THE PRESIDENT: Richard, if I thought we could achieve success, I would sit
down. But I don't think we can achieve success right now. And, therefore,
we'll want to work with other nations. I think that we're more likely to
achieve our goals when others are involved, as well. I really don't want to
put the situation -- let me put it this way: I want to make sure in the
Iranian issue that the whole world stays engaged, because I believe that's
a more effective way of convincing the Iranians to give up their nuclear
weapons ambitions. That's why.
Look, this is a world in which -- and I'm not suggesting you're this way --
but this is a world in which people say, meet -- sit down and meet. And my
answer is, if it yields results; that's what I'm interested in. And so I
believe the strategy that -- and by the way, I remember this during the
North Korean issue, debate. People kept saying, well, all you've got to do
is sit down with the guy. And I kept saying, well, I think it's going to be
more effective if we have other people at the table with us saying the same
thing, so that just in case he decides not to honor the agreement, there
will be other people saying the same thing I'll say, which is, you said one
thing, you did another. It will make it easier for us to send that message
that the world is pretty well united in sol
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