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President Bush and President Berger of Guatemala Participate in Joint Press
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For Immediate Release Office of the Press Secretary March 12, 2007

President Bush and President Berger of Guatemala Participate in Joint Press
Availability The National Palace Guatemala City, Guatemala

’’White House News

’’’’’ President's Trip to Latin America

3:37 P.M. (Local)

PRESIDENT BERGER: (As translated.) Distinguished members of the media,
welcome, and thank you for honoring us with your presence. A very fruitful,
interesting and productive day with President Bush. Today's visit to the
department of Chirijuy£, Iximché, the contact that we were able to have
with our people, the cultural legacy that we were able to witness together,
and the special meaning that it is together closer to the Guatemalan people
and hear from them of their history with President Bush and Mrs. Bush, has
been very important today.

After that very interesting visit, we met with teams of President Bush and
Berger, and evidently, on the table were extremely important topics,
particularly as regards Guatemala. And we were able to discuss security and
our efforts to fight drug trafficking. In that sense, President Bush
expressed his support also for the Maya plan that is already in operation,
and has told us that he is going to make a regional proposal to fight drug
trafficking, regionally, where he is inviting Mexico and the Central
American countries to join the United States in the fight. Part of this
strategy seeks to train the security bodies that are in charge of fighting
drug trafficking, and the intelligence that is going to surround these
teams, and then be able to identify these sources in a permanent strategy,
and I insist, regional strategy, which I think is key. We should no longer
work in isolation. We should work jointly -- that is the countries that
face this very serious problem.

Likewise, we talked about the Millennium Challenge Account. And Secretary
of State Condoleezza Rice told us that Guatemala continues to be among the
countries that could be elected. In the coming two months we are going to
receive a response. We expect that it might be favorable for Guatemala.

Today, President Bush, who is participating in this productive effort -- we
were able to see how these Guatemalan workers produce the best vegetables
in the world, and have been able to enter a very important market,
particularly the Central American market, the effort of whose integration
President Bush is also aware of.

Of course, President Bush's visit brings us closer to the most important
and largest economic power and the largest market in the world with many
possibilities through CAFTA, where we give better access to the U.S. market
to Guatemalan produce, where we highlighted snow peas and berries, chili
peppers and tomatoes. We had a limitation, and there was -- as of a couple
of months, we are exporting significant amounts of Guatemalan produce. So
we also mentioned support by U.S. customs to control Guatemalan port and
customs services. This gives us a better rating, and makes it possible for
us to exercise a more efficient trade effort.

We've mentioned to President Bush, and we've invited the United States to
become the partner of the Central American Economic Integration Bank --
CABEI -- one that he favored, and he is well aware of the fact that this
bank and it's resources are used to build infrastructure, to promote
investment, and to give support to governments, as well.

I believe that everyone will probably be waiting to hear about the topic of
migrants. This is a topic that we discussed at greater length with
President Bush during the trip this morning, and during this afternoon's
meeting. It is a concern for President Bush, it is a concern for the
Guatemalans and the 13 million illegal immigrants who are currently living
in the United States.

President Bush has confirmed that there are no express instructions to
persecute Guatemalan illegal aliens -- that is somebody is acting beyond
the scope of the law, he has to be brought before the law. But if there is
no intention to persecute undocumented workers. He has convinced us that
the best proposal is the migration law reform. He extensively explained the
efforts that -- what the efforts will need to engaged by the Democratic
groups, and the Republican groups in the Senate, but that should not be an
issue that should be on the agenda next year. That should be taken care of,
and he expects by August we will have a reform for the immigration act,
where a legal status will be considered for those who are already living
there, and regulations of how to become a legal worker in the United
States.

I would like to take this opportunity, President Bush, to thank you for
your visit. Guatemala feels honored. We feel highly satisfied and deeply
committed with this effort. We have been in the eyes and the minds of the
entire world during these couple of hours that we have been sharing with
you. And what is most important, I believe that for the people in the
highlands of Guatemala today, there was a message of closeness, of rapport
with President Bush and of a hope, together we can achieve great things as
Mariano Can said, in Tecp n -- where he showed us what he can do with his
work team, how he can give added value to the wonderful vegetables of the
highlands of Guatemala, to be able to send it to the great U.S. market.

Once again, for President Berger, this has been a wonderful opportunity to
have been able to share with Mrs. Bush and President Bush. And for
Guatemala, it is a reason for pride. Once again, thank you very much for
your visit. (Applause.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Se¤or Presidente, thank you very much for your warm
welcome. I agree with you, it's been a great day for Laura and me. And we
really loved traveling with you and Wendy, and it's just a wonderful
experience.

I appreciate your kindness on this first official visit to your country.
Relations between the United States and Guatemala are stronger than ever.
We're friends. And that's important. Our countries are fellow democracies.
We're partners in trade. We're allies in the cause of social justice. Today
President Berger and I discussed some of the ways that the United States
and Guatemala can continue to work together to build a more hopeful future
for the people in our respective countries.

Guatemala is a strong and vibrant democracy of more than 12 million people.
President Berger understands the importance of building a government that
is accountable to all its citizens. And I appreciate that commitment. I
appreciate the steps you've taken to increase transparency, to reduce
corruption, to modernize the civil service and to help improve Guatemala's
record on human rights. You've got strong leadership, Mr. President.

In September, you elect a new President, who will face the task of building
on your successes. The United States and the international community will
support the people of Guatemala in holding free and fair elections.

Your President and I both believe that a strong democracy requires security
from drug lords and violent criminals. So we spent a lot of time talking
about that today. I appreciate the fact that you have renewed the fight
against the drug trade, that you've worked to eradicate opium poppy, and
you fired hundreds of corrupt police officers. That's what leaders do. You
find problems and you address them for the good of the people. We
appreciate Guatemala's commitment to this work and we'll continue to stand
with you.

President Berger is working with the United Nations to form an
international commission to help investigate and prosecute organized crime
in Guatemala, and the United States strongly supports this effort. Our
countries are working together to fight transnational gangs. And the
President was right -- I suggested we think about this issue regionally.
You've got to understand that these gangs are able to move throughout
Central America and up through Mexico into our own country, and therefore,
we've got to think regionally and act regionally.

The first thing we can do is share information so we can help track down
gang members and we can increase communications. We can develop effective
ways to protect children from gangs. There's a lot of work to be done, but
it first starts with making a sincere commitment to addressing the problem.

Improving education is an important goal for both our nations. We spent a
lot of time today talking about education. And the President and First Lady
of Guatemala are absolutely committed to extending education's reach beyond
just the capital city. And I appreciate that commitment, Mr. President.
More than 40 percent of the population of this country is under 15 years
old -- an interesting statistic, isn't it? -- which means that a more
hopeful future depends on teaching the younger generation the skills
necessary to be able to succeed in the 21st century.

And we want to help. We've done some interesting work here, and the
American people need to know that our commitment, our bilateral aid in
Guatemala goes toward helping meet education goals. It's in the interest of
the United States that there be literate populations in our neighborhood.
In the city -- in the department of Iximch , we established a project that
helped raise the number of children who complete 1st grade from 51 percent
to 71 percent. It's not a well-known program, but it worked. And this
country of mine is committed to helping make these kind of programs
successful, Mr. President.

We also want to expand access to health care. Today, as the President
mentioned, we went to Santa Cruz Balany  -- it was a really interesting
moment. The American people would have been incredibly proud of watching
our military folks dispense with basic health care needs to people who
needed help. And the people of Guatemala would be especially proud to have
seen your military working side-by-side with our troops to do the same
thing. There's a great mission of compassion. And it's making a difference
to people's lives.

Imagine not being able to see, and then all of a sudden somebody appears in
your life, gives you an eye test and fits you for glasses so you can see
better. Or you have a perpetual tooth ache and somebody shows up, in this
case in military uniforms, and says, how can I help? It is in the interest
of the United States to continue these kinds of missions, Mr. President.

It is estimated that we have served more than 160,000 Guatemalans since
2001 providing health care, basic health care needs. And I was sharing with
the President a little earlier that we're going to set up a health care
training mission in Panama, so that we can train trainers, so that people
in Guatemala can come and get the basic skills necessary to take back to
their towns and villages to be able to dispense with basic health care.

The United States and Guatemala trade a lot, especially now that Guatemala
has become a full member of CAFTA-DR. President Berger and I believe that
CAFTA can spread opportunity, provide jobs, and help lift people out of
poverty. We saw how trade can transform the small village of Chirijuy --
part of our experience in traveling with the President was to get outside
the capital. It was really, really fun -- and really heartwarming. As a
matter of fact, it was one of the great experiences of my presidency. The
town has grown from subsistence farming to selling high-value crops, like
lettuce and carrots and celery. As a matter of fact, I got to pack some
lettuce. The President and I were hauling boxes of lettuce, we were putting
them in the truck.

I met Mariano Can£. I talked about this man, Mariano Can£, in my speech in
Washington, D.C. I never met him, but I was intrigued by his story about
how a fellow had gone from being a subsistence farmer, just scratching out
a living, barely making it, the father of six kids wondering whether or not
they would have a future, and then he organized an organization of small
farmers call Labradores Mayas. And they came together and they became more
efficient. And then they found markets. They found markets throughout
Central America, as a result of CAFTA, and into the United States as a
result of CAFTA.

And the guy is making a living. He's making more than a living; he's built
a thriving enterprise. You should have seen the look on his face, about how
proud he was to show to the President of this country and the President of
the United States about progress being made.

As the President mentioned, I'm working with the United States Congress on
comprehensive immigration reform. He asked me about an incident that took
place up in Massachusetts the other day. I said, yes, we're going to
enforce the laws in our country, just like you should you enforce the laws
in yours. It is against the law for somebody to hire somebody who is in our
country illegally to work. And, therefore, the deportations took place as a
result of law enforcement enforcing the law. They didn't say, well, maybe
there's Guatemalans there, let's go get them. That wasn't what happened.
Just so you know. You've got to understand that when we enforce the law, we
do so in a fair and rational way. It just so happened that Guatemalans were
working there illegally.

He also mentioned to me that there's some conspiracies about how children
are being left behind in Guatemala. No es la verdad. That's not the way
America operates. We're a decent, compassionate country. Those are the kind
of things we do not do. We believe in families and we'll treat people with
dignity. And the system needs to be fixed. And so we spent time talking
about our strategy to get comprehensive immigration reform out of the
Congress.

As I told the President, it seems like to me we've got to get this done by
August. I hope so. I don't want to put a timetable on the legislative
process. Timetables are generally meant to be broken. We don't believe in
timetables. But I do believe in pressing hard and working with Democrats
and Republicans to get it done, Mr. President. And we want there to be a
rational way for people to come and do jobs Americans aren't doing. We
don't want people to feel like they have to get stuffed into the back of a
truck and pay exorbitant fees to coyotes to come and try and realize
dreams. There's got to be a better system.

And I told him the biggest problem in the debate is going to be what to do
with the people who are already in our country illegally. And I explained
to him there will not be amnesty, automatic citizenship. It's just not
going to happen. Nor is it feasible to try to kick everybody out of our
country. That's not possible. And so I'm going to work with members of both
parties to find a rational middle ground to have a comprehensive plan, Mr.
President. It's important to you, but it's important to the United States
of America to do this, as well.

We also talked about adoption. I don't know if my fellow citizens
understand this, but there are a lot of U.S. families who adopt babies from
Guatemala, thousands of babies. This year it is very important for the
United States and Guatemala to implement the Hague Convention on adoptions
to help protect children and families during the adoption process. We found
common ground on that issue. And I appreciate your strong stand, Mr.
President, and I assured the President we would follow through, ourselves.

I can't thank you enough for your leadership. I appreciate the vision you
have for your country. When you speak, you speak with passion, because you
care deeply about the future of Guatemala, and you care deeply about the
people of Guatemala. It's an honor to be with you. It's been a joyful trip
for us. I'm looking forward to the dinner that you're hosting for Laura and
me. I'm not going to talk too long because I might get too hungry.
(Laughter.) But thank you for your time. (Applause.)

PRESIDENT BERGER: Thank you, President Bush. I have here a note where I'm
asked to make reference to the members of the media who are going to ask
questions.

Go ahead, Francisco.

Q President Bush, good afternoon. Mr. President, deportations continue. At
the end of 2006, and only a week ago, this practice of deporting, or
arresting immigrants and beginning a process of deportation continued. In
Guatemala, information of abuse of authority and lack of respect for the
right of the Guatemalan immigrants has been disseminated. My question is,
now that you are in Guatemala, is there a commitment from your country to
the 13 million Guatemalans to cease these deportations since you expect to
have a comprehensive immigration reform?

PRESIDENT BUSH: The commitment is people will be treated with respect, but
the United States will enforce our law. It's against the law to hire
somebody who is in our country illegally, and we are a nation of law.

The best way to solve the concerns of the citizens of Guatemala -- listen,
I fully understand that the citizens of Guatemala are concerned about their
relatives or friends who are in the United States. And I appreciate that.
The best way to address the concerns inherent in your question is for me to
work with Congress to get a comprehensive bill. And I'm optimistic we can
do so. It's going to be tough work, don't get me wrong. But I believe we
can get a comprehensive bill out of the Congress.

And I think you'll find that -- let me say, I certainly hope you'll find
that people who are in the -- that are interfacing with our government are
treated with respect and decency. That's certainly the instructions. Now,
I'm sure they don't want to be sent home, but nevertheless, we enforce
laws. And I readily concede the system needs to be changed, and I hope I
can convince the majority of both the House and the Senate to change the
law in a rational way.

Q Thank you, Mr. President. May I extend good wishes to your father's
health.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you.

Q You've spoken throughout this trip --

PRESIDENT BUSH: That's actually a kind gesture. Thank you.

Q You've spoken throughout the trip about the need for comprehensive
immigration reform. It's been a big subject here in Guatemala City. Can you
provide a little more detail, sir, if you would, about how you intend to
overcome congressional opposition? There is opposition in both parties,
specifically at the moment; a bill has been expected for some time now.
You've been working with senators, and your staff have been working with
senators. Is there a hold up? How are you tackling the problem at the
moment?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I appreciate that. He's referring to the process at this
point in time, about why hadn't a consensus bill in the Senate began to
emerge, and it's because this is a complicated issue that requires both
parties learning to work together on this issue. I believe it is, first of
all, incumbent to find as best as possible a coherent Republican position
in the Senate. And that's where we're spending a lot of time right now. And
then, as I understand it, Senator Kennedy will be carrying the bill on the
Democrat side, and then once we can get a coherent Republican position, one
that most Republicans are comfortable with, then we'll start working with
the Senator.

As you know full well that if we don't have enough consensus, nothing is
going to move out of the Senate. And if nothing moves out of the Senate,
nothing is going to happen in the House. And so, therefore, the initial
stages of getting a bill that meets objections is time-consuming, but it is
worth it and necessary, in order for us to be able to address the concerns,
many of which were expressed during the last debate on immigration reform.

Now, I'm optimistic. I really am. I believe -- I believe we can get
something done, and I believe we're beginning to find consensus. I think
there is pretty widespread consensus that there ought to be a temporary
worker plan that says you can come legally to the United States to do a job
Americans are not doing for a period of time. That will help a lot of the
Guatemalan citizens. It will mean somebody, first of all, doesn't have to
sneak in the country in the first place and pay a coyote, or buy forged
documents, or sleep in some sleazy place hiding from authorities until
you're able to make destination. You'll be able to come in in a rational
way.

Secondly, that once you're in the United States, if you have to come home
to be with your family, you'll be able to do so in a legal way. In other
words, you'll be able to come back and forth, without fear. You won't be
able to -- there will be a time limit on the amount of time, and that's
part of the negotiations.

The hard issue, as the President noted, and I just talked about, was what
to do with the people who've been in our country for more than a limited
period of time. And that's a difficult issue, and it's one that's got a lot
of politics in the country. The idea of giving someone automatic
citizenship is just not acceptable. It's not acceptable to a lot of people
in our country. And, Massimo, you understand that. And yet, the fundamental
question is how do you design a system that doesn't raise those fears. And,
yes -- obviously, he didn't like my answer. Oh, you did like it. Good.
(Laughter.)

My dad had been ill, and he kindly brought greetings.

Q That was very specific. That's a lot, though. You think you can get that
done by August?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I -- you know, August is a date that I was musing
about, and that date came to mind because I understand how difficult it can
be coming down the stretch in the legislative session in a calendar year
because the appropriations bill -- you're learning more about this than you
probably want to know -- but the appropriations bills begin to crowd out
the calendar in the latter part of the year. And they can consume a lot of
time.

And therefore, my hope is -- my hope is -- it's certainly not a promise,
but my hope would be that we'd be able to get something out of the Senate
and then into the House, and something -- then they can work the conference
in the fall. That would be the hope.

And but I'm not the person that sets the calendar. I'm just a simple member
of the executive branch. (Laughter.) It's the legislative branch that
decides the calendar.

And -- go ahead.

PRESIDENT BERGER: I would like to say that, in fact, the Guatemalan people
would have preferred a more clear and positive response: no more
deportations, so to say. But as the President has said, there is a legal
framework that needs to be respected. But historically, I think that we
have never been so close to finding a solution to this problem as now.

I was very pleased to hear President Bush say that this is a problem that
they also have. It is not only a problem for migrants. It is a problem for
the American citizens and a problem that has to be resolved. We have never
before been as close as we are at this time of seeing a light at the end of
the tunnel, and in the near future in getting the undocumented status
changed for 13 million illegal aliens who are living in the U.S.

Q Good afternoon, President Bush and President Berger. President Bush, in
Guatemala, there is a very serious problem of drug trafficking. You talk
about a regional strategy to tackle it. I would like to ask you to expand
on this topic, also taking into account that the latest reports produced by
the United States on Guatemala have not been very favorable. And also, the
issue of drug trafficking has led to very serious security problems in
Guatemala. The latest was the murder of three Salvadorean congress members.
The U.S. is also participating in this investigation. How far will the U.S.
cooperation go? Because there is also the request for a mini-Colombia Plan
to face it.

PRESIDENT BUSH: The drug trafficking is very serious, a serious problem for
the United States, and so -- most of the drugs end up in the United States,
which really says that we need to do a better job of convincing our
citizens not to use drugs. If demand for the drugs went down, it could make
it more difficult for the drug traffickers to find markets.

Secondly, drug trafficking is a serious problem because narco-trafficking
destabilizes areas. It's in our interests in our country to promote
prosperity and peace and stability. Narco-traffickers promote instability
and tensions, which make it hard for the general populous to become
prosperous. It also turns out narco-traffickers oftentimes leave behind the
poison as they head to other markets. In other words, the local population
can become deeply affected by drogas.

And so this is a serious issue. We've had experience in dealing with one
state that, obviously, had to deal with the potential of narco-traffickers
undermining democracy, and that's Colombia. This is -- in my judgment, the
best way to deal with this problem, and to convince others throughout our
country that it makes a lot of sense to commit assets is to think
regionally. Because as the President mentioned, he said, one of the
interesting dynamics that's taking place here is that people and goods are
moving quite freely across borders. Well, if people and goods are moving
quite freely; drug traffickers will be moving quite freely. And there's
kind of almost a borderless domain for these people.

And therefore, thinking regionally -- and that includes the United States
and Mexico and Central America -- now, I'll bring this up with President
Calderon tomorrow about how we can work constructively. A lot of this has
to do with sharing of information. In other words, we pick up pretty good
information at times. After all, the United States, oftentimes, is the
endpoint, is the end of the distribution chain. And sometimes our DEA folks
can trace back movements of drugs, which might then be able to help the
region be able to disrupt and affect.

Look, I am a "if they break the law, arrest them" person. I think we ought
to go find these people and bring them to justice. And it's tough, because
the richer they become, the more lethal they become, and the more dangerous
they are to democracies. And that's why there needs to be a collaborative
effort, the details of which will emerge as we continue to strategize. But
step one is to share information.

As to the Salvadorians, of course, I'm deeply concerned about their death,
as is the President. And we have sent, I think, four FBI agents down here
to help with forensics and to help track down the leads, so that wherever
those killers may light, the authorities can go get them. And that's what
we need to do.

This is a serious issue, and we spent a lot of time talking about it.

Elaine.

This will be your last question, Mr. President, and then we can start
thinking about dinner, la cena. Que vamos a comer?

PRESIDENT BERGER: Tortillas.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Tortillas? Que bueno.

PRESIDENT BERGER: We have tortillas with guacamole and beans.

PRESIDENT BUSH: Con el muerso, hoy.

Q President Bush, your decision to sign legislation authorizing
construction of a fence along the U.S.-Mexico was not viewed positively
here in the region. How would you respond to critics who feel that that
sends a message that Latin Americans are not welcome in the United States?

And, President Berger, what are your thoughts on the idea of a fence, the
U.S. border policy in regard to a fence?

PRESIDENT BUSH: I did sign legislation modernizing our border. It was more
than just fence, it was infrastructure -- kind of a novel infrastructure,
like detection devices, berms. We've got a very long border, and it needs
to be enforced. It needs to be enforced not only to stop coyotes, but it
needs to be enforced to stop drugs. It needs to be enforced to stop
potential terrorists, and it needs to be enforced to stop arms. By the way,
arms that sometimes go the other way, I'm told. And so we've got to have a
border. That's what countries do, they enforce their borders.

And so we modernized the border. It was more than just fence. And I
understand it sent a signal that said, you're not welcome. Quite the
contrary; people are welcome, but under the law. There are thousands of
people in our country who are not citizens who are there legally. The
question is, what do we do with people who have been there over years, the
result of a law that isn't working well? And I've already given that
answer.

I will also explain that part of convincing people that a comprehensive
plan can work is to assure the American people that we're doing our duty by
enforcing law. In other words, a lot of citizens said, you just don't care
about whether or not we have a border that's secure. And the Congress
responded by saying, of course, we care. It is the first step toward a
comprehensive bill. In other words, people in Congress were saying, let us
do something about border enforcement, and then let's go comprehensive -- I
hope that's what they're saying.

In other words, that's what I'm pressing them to say. Okay, we've responded
to the needs of border enforcement; there are people being sent back. As a
matter of fact, I think it's interesting -- and, frankly, I didn't
anticipate this -- that the good press corps of Guatemala, reflecting the
concerns of the Guatemalan people, and the President of Guatemala
reflecting the concerns, asked me about deportations. I mean, that was a
primary concern. It means that something is -- the law is being enforced,
is what that means.

The American people need to be persuaded, Elaine, that the government takes
our responsibilities seriously, which then will make it easier to convince
reluctant members of Congress to come up with a comprehensive plan.

Now I've always been for a comprehensive plan. You might remember, if you
look back at some of my speeches -- I know you didn't listen to any of
them, but you might want to go back and read them. Well, that's not fair.
Okay, anyway, but I've always felt it was important. And I learned
firsthand how important it was as the governor of Texas. I used to say
family values do not stop at the Rio Grande River, and that people are
coming to do jobs Americans are not doing because they want to feed their
families. That's why I said that.

By the way, the reason why trade is important in helping the programs like
Labradores Mayas is that I also believe most citizens in Guatemala would
rather find meaningful jobs at home instead of having to travel to a
foreign land to work. And therefore, the more we can enhance prosperity in
our neighborhood, the more we can encourage trade that actually yields jobs
and stability, the less likely it is somebody who is worried about putting
food on the table for their family will be coming to the United States.

Anyway, I thank you for your interest on the topic, Mr. President. It's
been a wonderful press conference. Thank you.

PRESIDENT BERGER: I would like to close with that topic, the American Dream
for everyone. And we can have that American Dream in our own countries by
promoting education, by improving infrastructure, by implementing CAFTA,
which is a very interesting tool to produce and to export and also to
attract investment and generate jobs. I believe that we are firm along
those lines that the American Dream is going to be the dream for all the
Americans living in the American continent.

Thank you very much. (Applause.)

PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you all.

END 4:15 P.M. (Local)

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