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Skriven 2015-05-10 19:13:00 av Ed Vance (13904.windowsa)
   Kommentar till text 2213 av Holger Granholm (2:20/228)
Ärende: Re: film camera
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05-01-15 11:09 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: film camera

 HG> @MSGID: <55474C83.13890.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
 HG> In a message dated 04-30-15, Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

 HG> GM Ed,
Howdy! Holger,
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 EV> I didn't notice the Camera Brand that I looked at wasn't a regular
 EV> Kino Camera, I thought all Kino Cameras worked with a crank on the
 EV> side to take images one after the other as the crank was turned.
 EV> My mistake in not reSearching further about it.

I just looked in Firefox' History for the website where I saw a
'Kino' camera, it was

shop.lomography.com/us/lomokino

if you want to take a look at what I saw.

Another website I looked at was

microsites.lomography.com/lomokino/mubi/

The websites says the camera is a 35MM Movie Camera, and I just thought
Your camera was one like that one.

 HG> Please note that "in old times" the 8 and 16 mm cinema cameras
 HG> where not running with electrical motors but a spring driven
 HG> motor and therefore the spring that fed the motor had to be
 HG> wound up with a crank or some other mechanical device.

I remember those times too.
My dad had a 8MM camera with the crank on the side to wind the spring.
This was before the Super 8 cameras were made ttbomk.

 EV> In the 1960's Kodak made a Ektachrome film with a higher speed
 EV> (ASA), so I bought a roll of it to try out.

 HG> AFAIR I have always been able to buy any film with different
 HG> sensitivity

I remember TRI-X and Panatomic-X 35MM B&W films having higher
light sensitivity for sale in the mid-1950s.

I'm not sure when Ektachrome film came to the stores.
A young friend had a 127 camera that he used Ektachrome film in, and I
think that is how I learned about it having a faster speed than
Kodacolor negative film.

I had a 620 camera back then and can't remember if Ektachrome came in
the 620 size or not, I don't think so best as I can recall.

When I started using a 35MM Camera the Color Slide film available
from Kodak was Kodachrome ASA 10, and Ektachrome ASA 32.
I liked the idea of Ektachrome being 3 times as fast as Kodachrome
so I started using it. 
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 HG> Most cameras, except the cheapest ones, can be adjusted to
 HG> different speeds and apertures to compensate for different
 HG> light situations.

My Argus C3 iirc slowest shutter speed was 1/10 Second and f3.5 was the
widest opening with its 50MM lens.

I remember taking a snapshot in the late evening by leaning the square
side of the C3 against a Light Pole and taking a shot at the 1/10
setting and seeing a good image after the film was processed.

 HG> Nowadays they do it automatically if you don't decide to do it
 HG> manually.

Yes, and they will complain if they can't take the picture too.
-snip-
 HG> Oh yes, I recall those projectors that were available to the
 HG> public in "old time" amusement establishments. That must have
 HG> been btwn 1940-50. You put in a dime (or whatever it was) and
 HG> then you could turn a crank and enjoy a short movie sequence.

 EV> I think/thought what I was looking at was a current model that was
 EV> still being sold, instead of antique stuff.
 EV> It didn't look anything like the big machines in the Penny Arcade at
 EV> the amusement park that I dropped many pennies in during my youth.
 EV> -snip-

 HG> The cameras were much smaller that the projectors because the
 HG> projectors used paper images of the pictures on the film. That
 HG> was the oldi

 EV> Now, my mind is trying to remember what size of image was on the
 EV> reels of 35mm film which I put on the projectors when I was working
 EV> as a Projectionist at a Movie Theater.

 HG> Those images are/were the standard 35x24 mm size.

They were smaller than the 24X36 mm size a regular camera took.
I'll go to Wikipedia to see if I can find out and then continue this
reply.

Movie Film image was called Single Frame, the same size as my Pen EE-S
camera took.
Four Sprocket Holes was the length of those images.

On a regular 35MM snapshot camera it was Eight Sprocket Holes for the
24MM High by 36MM Wide image.

So the best guess I can give for the image on 35MM Movie/Cinama Film
would be 18MM High by a little less than 24MM wide due to the Optical
Sound Track between the image and the sprocket holes on one side.

I think it was around 1958? when Motion Picture Film had magnetic media
applied to the outside edges of the film, to carry Stereo sound.
73
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