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Skriven 2005-09-12 01:55:17 av Gerald Miller (1:342/512)
  Kommentar till text 11181 av ROBERT FOWLER (1:123/140)
Ärende: WinXP
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Hello ROBERT,

    Responding to a post in the WIN95 area:
    On Sunday September 11 2005 at 18:30,
    ROBERT FOWLER [1:123/140] wrote to GERALD MILLER,
    about: Re: WinXP

Note: I didn't reply to your previous post regarding "printer is connected
to a port (print server) in your router" because (while it was a more
desirable way to travel) this message is more applicable to my situation.

 GM>>> I have a Canon i550 printer on my Windows XP Pro box and it is setup
 GM>>> to share across the network with a share name of Canoni55.  Windows
 GM>>> 98 SE sees the printer just fine and I can print from that box just
 GM>>> fine (even when the XPP box is powered off).  Windows 2000 Pro is
 GM>>> constantly telling me that the printer is offline...  Could you make
 GM>>> some suggestions to help me fix the printer problem on the W2K box?

 AZ>> I'm mystified as to how you can print across the network to a shared
 AZ>> printer when the computer the printer is physically connected to is
 AZ>> powered off!

 GM>> This particular printer has a "remote" power option similar to the
 GM>> Wake On Lan.  I know it works because the XPP box can be powered off
 GM>> and I can send a "print job" from the W98SE box and the printer
 GM>> powers up to print out my documents.

 RF> The "remote" power option has nothing to do with what Alan is asking.
 RF> He's asking about how the printer is connected to the XPP box.  This
 RF> would be (as you are insinuating) by either a parallel cable or USB
 RF> cable DIRECTLY to the respective port on the XPP box (doubt).

Sorry, I was misunderstanding.  The printer is connected to the XPP box by
a parallel cable on LPT1.

 RF> The point is, that the above connection constitutes the path to the
 RF> printer, and that if the host machine is off, there is no active
 RF> path to the printer.  Nothing in the printer hardware can change
 RF> that. ;-)  The network always requires an active electrical path
 RF> from source to destination.

It would seem that I was incorrect in my presumption of the powering aspect
of the printer and you are correct.  For example, the XPP box is on (screen
saver running), I'm in W98SE and I try to print from W98 -- I get an error
message to the effect that the printer is off-line.  Go to the XPP, take it
out of screen saver, go back to W98, issue the print, printer powers up and
runs the print job.

 GM>> I'm going to remove the Share on the printer, reboot the XPP,
 GM>> reestablish the Share for the printer and see if that will make any
 GM>> difference...

 RF> It shouldn't.  For what you are describing to work, your printer is
 RF> not a locally shared printer in the XPP box, despite how you may
 RF> choose to configure it there.  Icons and "share" hands are simply
 RF> confusing you.

Yes, I'll admit that I'm very confused!

 RF> IOW, Win98SE has access to this printer because it can reach it
 RF> directly.  There is nothing in the XPP configuration that affects
 RF> that.

 RF> By the same token, W2K cannot reach it, because presumably, you have
 RF> tried to configure it there as a XPP locally shared printer, rather
 RF> than configuring it with it network address, which W2K can reach.

 RF> Go into your Win98SE system, printers, and look at the properties
 RF> for this printer.  You should find that it will list the port and
 RF> address information that you need to import into your W2K
 RF> configuration.

Ah Hah!  W98SE reports the printer as: "\\WINXP\Canoni55 on LPT1"...
Couldn't find a reference to a network address, but I think that if all
three machines can detect one another, then the addresses _should_ be known
to all.  ?

W2K has the printer "sort of" configured (well, it recognizes the printer
is on the XPP box), but when I call up the properties, everything is
"greyed out" and I can't make any changes.

The printer does have a USB port and the Canon instructions say that "the
USB connection is considerably faster than the parallel connection, but
that the two connectors cannot be used at the same time." (that's
understandable!)

All three boxes have USB ports, but I think I will run into the same
problem -- printer is plugged into a USB port of "down" computer and
printer is off-line...

I just went on the web and Googled for a USB HUB.  I'll have to have a talk
to my local Staples sales person...

I'll get back at you next week with my results (going out of town to work).

           Cheers ... Gerald

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