Text 1769, 69 rader
Skriven 2005-01-07 23:43:00 av JAY EMRIE (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MARK LEWIS
Ärende: Spam
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ML>ML>> JE> but isn't MY ISP the destination server?

ML>ML>>if you are on the receiving end, yes... are you saying
ML>ML>>that they will "shut me off" if i send you too much
ML>ML>>bulkmail? seems to me the only real ones they can
ML>ML>>"shut off" are their own customers abusing their servers...

ML> JE> That is what I meant. When I see an incoming message with
ML> JE> alphabet soup as the sender's name I automatically mark it
ML> JE> as spam and it gets deleted and put on my blacklist

ML>that's not a good idea... i can easily post several hundred valid "alphabet
ML>soup" email addresses... all of them, mine! ;)  all of mine are one form of
ML>thwarting the spammers and their dictionary attacks on the servers... all of
ML>them are valid in that they have been generated for specific purposes and
uses
ML>by specific people and companies to contact me...

When I get an email with Johndoe.werhgbklwery@dsggfd.net I delete it.
If anybody wishes to contract me they will have to start out with what
looks to me to be a valid name/address, etc.

ML>  HINT: http://sneakemail.com/

Hey! Thanks a heap.

ML> JE> rather than being downloaded to my PC. However, the
ML> JE> spammers are constantly changing their "alphabet soup"
ML> JE> names. That is when key word IDing In the subject, body,
ML> JE> of the message helps

ML>to a point, yes, if, by keyword iding, you mean something like "[fido] blah
ML>blah" in the subject line...

Or meds or loan or viagra or many other key words.


ML>ML>>all they can do to me is to block my access to their servers
ML>ML>>based on IP or domain name...

ML>ML>>as a spammer, i'd use many IPs and domain names... in fact,
ML>ML>>i'd have me an army of thousands and thousands of machines
ML>ML>>all over the world... there's no way they could block me
ML>ML>>with all those at my disposal... the list of blocked
ML>ML>>addresses and domains would soon swamp them and the load
ML>ML>>incurred checking would be greater than the load of simply
ML>ML>>processing the mail... sooner or later, they'd end up
ML>ML>>cutting off the entire world...

ML> JE> From what you are saying, if all of many spammers did the same
ML> JE> we are in deep doo doo.

ML>what i described is reality, today... it is what numerous spammer
ML>groups/companies are doing, today... you did hear about the "fight" between
the
ML>netsky virus/worm author and another virus/worm author, right? the "fight"
ML>where they were putting comments into the virus/worm for the others to
read...
ML>comments along the lines of "why are you trying to kill my business?" and
"why
ML>are you copying my ideas?" and such...

Yes, I remember that.

Jay
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