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Skriven 2006-10-14 23:27:00 av ROBERT FOWLER (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av CHARLES ANGELICH
Ärende: Re: Vista anti-piracy
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-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to ROBERT FOWLER <=-


 AZ>> In my computer lab, we've recently transitioned from
 AZ>> all-Win98SE to nearly all Win2000 systems... (some of the
 AZ>> systems have WinXP licenses, but not all-- and I can use a
 AZ>> single image on all of them, despite minor hardware
 AZ>> differences, so I chose to go with running Win2000 on the
 AZ>> XP-licensed systems to simplify maintenance, and to have
 AZ>> all systems looking and acting the same).

 CA>> And to avoid the necessity to "validate" each XP install
 CA>> if any hardware requires replacement, I understand. :-)

 RF> That's not an issue where corporate licensing is involved.

 CA> I may be misunderstanding Alan but it seems he gets systems one
 CA> at a time and relies on the individual OEM licensing that came
 CA> with the machine when it was originally purchased so where do
 CA> you get "corporate licensing" in that?

 I understood him to say that he has a bulk license rule that applies
 to donated (but not purchased) hardware.  Whether or not there is
 a technical process (key, etc.) that overrides or removes the inherent
 re-activation requirements, I don't know.
                          
 CA>> This is why quite a few businesses continue to use W2K and
 CA>> this is what may hurt Vista more than M$ expects it to.

 RF> Disagree. W2K is a true business product. It has, among
 RF> other features the ability to join a domain, which lends
 RF> itself immediately to networking as a workstation in the
 RF> corporate environment, in conjunction with 2003 Server.

 CA> As a reply to what I have typed the above makes absolutely NO
 CA> sense whatsoever.

 It makes sense in that W2K probably doesn't won't compete with Vista,
 at least to any significant degree, as W2K is a business OS and Vista
 will be a home OS.
 
 RF> XP is the successor to the 9X/ME line, or a true home
 RF> product. XP Home cannot join a domain. XP Pro can, and has
 RF> also been used as a workstation, but probably with little
 RF> advantage over W2K, other than its ability to run software
 RF> that won't run on W2K.

 RF> Whether MS intends to keep the business and home lines
 RF> separate, or blend them is unclear at this point AFAIK (I
 RF> am aware that Longhorn Server is scheduled to replace 2003
 RF> Server), but Vista appears to be another home targeted
 RF> product.

 CA> Not sure where you get your information or why you feel the
 CA> need to "define" Vista here but you are obviously lost.

 Microsoft has already defined the lines and they have been discussed
 here in detail, perhaps with the exception of Vista.  Clearly, though
 Vista is the successor to XP and not W2K.

 AZ>> Along the way, I found quite a few installed programs that
 AZ>> wouldn't run on the WIN2000 systems... a bunch of game
 AZ>> demos in particular, from a variety of developers. (I
 AZ>> allow kids to come in to play games after school-- but
 AZ>> control what sorts of games are available. No virtual
 AZ>> bloodshed in school).

 CA>> I don't play games on my computer and have no knowledge of
 CA>> what works and/or does not work for game playing on a PC.

 RF> Suffice it to say that the hardware (especially video) is
 RF> quite demanding, and would be pretty much wasted on
 RF> anything intended to be used as a workstation in a
 RF> corporate setting.

 AZ>> The loss of games like EA's NHL2000 Demo (Win98 only) was
 AZ>> balanced out by the ability to run newer versions-- in
 AZ>> this case, the NHL2002 Demo... but the poor graphics card
 AZ>> (NVidia Vanta) on our new systems keep us from being able
 AZ>> to install most current versions.

 CA>> Unfortunate?

 RF> If you want computer games, W2K is not your OS.

 CA> I will concede to your greater expertise at game playing on
 CA> computers.

 Regards,

 Robert Fowler

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