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Text 26128, 123 rader
Skriven 2007-01-01 18:07:00 av George Vandervort (1:382/8)
  Kommentar till text 26121 av Jim Holsonback (1:123/140)
Ärende: Dust !
==============
Hello Jim!

Monday January 01 2007 16:41, JIM HOLSONBACK wrote to JEAN PARROT:
 JH>
 JH> Hmm.  Sounds like maybe a newer machine, with variable speed on the
 JH> cpu fan - - they run slow unless the cpu is hot or getting hot, then
 JH> they speed up.  Maybe by the time the fan gets the word to speed up,
 JH> it is too late.  Getting that dust out of there may well fix that
 JH> problem.
 JH>
 JH> As quiet as my new Christmas present system is, and with no breeze
 JH> coming out the back of the power supply, I suspect the power supply
 JH> fan on this machine is variable speed, too.  This one has a Phoenix
 JH> bios, and I can't find anything about cpu temperature and fan speed in
 JH> setup. Do you remember if Aida software which is able to show that
 JH> information?
 JH>

I use a FREE Program called SpeedFan to monitor the Speed
Temperature and Voltage of my Fans..


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http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

SpeedFan is a freeware program that monitors voltages, fan speeds and
temperatures in computers with hardware monitor chips. SpeedFan can even access
S.M.A.R.T. info for those hard disks that support this feature and show hard
disk temperatures too, if supported. SpeedFan supports SCSI disks too. SpeedFan
can even change the FSB on some hardware (but this should be considered a bonus
feature). At the lowest level, SpeedFan is an hardware monitor software that
can access digital temperature sensors, but its main feature is that it can
change fan speeds (depending on the capabilities of your sensor chip and your
hardware) according to the temperatures inside your pc, thus reducing noise.
Several sensors, like Winbond's and the AS99127F support fan speed changing, as
well as others from Maxim, Myson, Analog Devices, National Semiconductor and
ITE, but the hardware manufacturer must have connected the relevant pins to
some additional, yet trivial, circuitry. This means that if you have, say, a
Winbond W83782D on a BP6 then you're ok, but not every motherboard with such an
hardware monitor chip will be able to change fan speeds. From one of the very
first hardware monitor chips that could be found in standard PCs, the National
Semiconductor LM75 (and all of its clones, like the Philips NE1617 and the
Philips NE1618 or the Maxim MAX1617) or the Analog Devices ADM1021, such chips
have been greatly improved, both in their precision and in their capabilities.
Current chips can monitor fan speeds, voltages and change fan speeds by using
PWMs (Pulse Width Modulation). Some chips can even be programmed to vary fan
speeds without any additional software intervention. If your BIOS was
programmed to setup such chips this way you can still try to use SpeedFan's
Advanced Configuration to revert to manual (software controlled) mode. Winbond
W83697HF, Analog Devices ADT7463, SMSC EMC6D102, ITE IT8712F, National LM85C
and Maxim MAX6650 are very good candidates. Some SuperIO chips include
temperature sensors too. SpeedFan can
automatically detect them and use their features. SpeedFan can find almost any
hardware monitor chip connected to the 2-wire SMBus (System Management Bus, a
subset of the I2C BUS) Serial Interface and to the ISA BUS and works fine with
Windows 9x, ME, NT, 2000, 2003 and Windows XP. It works with Windows 64 bit
too. It can be minimized to the tray and is compatible with Motherboard Monitor
5. 
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 JP>>    So, I took it all apart,
 JP>>    cards, HD, devices and all RAM along with all the cables. Ran
 JP>> a   vacuum in it then blew whatever was not sucked out. Even the
 JP>> capacitors sitting beside the socket, were covered with this
 JP>> dust.
 JH>
 JH> Reminds me of a "bargain" I recently found at a garage sale - - a
 JH> Gateway PIII-500 from Gateway.  Got the box plus a vga monitor and
 JH> keyboard all for the princely sum of $2.  I don't know where they had
 JH> it running, but _all_ of it was very dusty and dirty.  I started with
 JH> a shop vac inside the case, using the round brush attachment,
 JH> which wouldn't reach everywhere.  Next took it outside and switched
 JH> the hose on the shop vac to "blow" - - got most of it out.
 JH>
 JP>>         I have not turned it ON yet, big test today after I take
 JP>> the   PS apart and give it the works too. I can not see inside
 JP>> for the   dust.
 JH>
 JH> I've used shop vac on "blow" to blow those out, without opening the
 JH> case.  In extreme cases in the past, I've even used a leaf blower!
 JH> Always on extremely dirty systems, of low value, like the $2 one I
 JH> talked about above.
 JH>
 JP>>         Funny happening at Doc's today. I got a lump of mail
 JP>> dating   back to the 12th, and none for the last day or so. 200
 JP>> postings.   Did you see this from FIDO too ? Or is it Doc playing
 JP>> with our mail   on this last day of 2006 ?
 JH>
 JH> As relayed by others, some sysop's system had a major hiccup. Now
 JH> seems to be over.
 JH>
 JP>>    Last day in 2006. What is 2007 going to be ?
 JH>
 JH> I predict it will be a _good_ year.
 JH>
 JP>>              I wish you all the best.
 JH>
 JH> Same to you and everyone else here.
 JH>
 JH> - - -  JimH.
 JH>
 JH> ... "Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying
 JH> for."
 JH> ... - - Will Rogers
 JH>
 JH> -+- MultiMail/Win32 v0.47
 JH>  + Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 www.docsplace.tzo.com
 JH> (1:123/140)


Regards,
George Vandervort
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