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Skriven 2005-03-19 10:36:35 av Gerald Miller (1:342/512)
   Kommentar till text 5040 av CHARLES ANGELICH (1:123/140)
Ärende: I've had it!
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Hello CHARLES,

    Responding to a post in the WIN95 area:
    On Wednesday March 16 2005 at 19:43,
    CHARLES ANGELICH [1:123/140] wrote to GERALD MILLER,
    about: I've had it!

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 CA>>>>> Reads like it was written by a journalist. Moves a bit too fast
 CA>>>>> with not enough information about each function. I can follow it
 CA>>>>> but I've used BootitNG for some time now (years?) and the screens
 CA>>>>> and terminology used by Terrabyte are familiar to me.

 GM>>>> Too bad about the journalist. Would you create something on your
 GM>>>> website?

 CA>>> I've consider doing that but the 'trend' is to purchase 'name'
 CA>>> software like Ghost even though most of them are begining to have
 CA>>> compatibility problems and cost twice the price.

 GM>> I looked at the most recent NSW (with two versions of Ghost included)
 GM>> package, put it back on the shelf and resisted _all_ temptation to
 GM>> buy any Symantec product. ;-)) The price was respectable enough but
 GM>> I'd rather get a lobotomy for my money.

 CA> Symantec, and others, are getting trickier. They offer mail-in rebates
 CA> then you find out later it is only for 'upgrades' from an earlier
 CA> version. :-(

I think that is unethical (if it's not clearly stated on the outside of the
package, _before_ you purchase it), but it must be legal, otherwise they
would be in courts defending themselves against fraud and lawsuits...

[snip]

 GM>>>> Okay, I was at the Terrabyte site. BootIt Next Generation when
 GM>>>> purchased with Image for Windows (includes Image for DOS) is priced
 GM>>>> at $49.54USD ($59.79CAD). Now, is Terrabyte shipping a CD with
 GM>>>> these programs or is that for an e-mailed license and you have to
 GM>>>> download the programs?

 CA>>> Last time I checked you download the software and get a 'license'
 CA>>> key for payment for same.

 GM>> I've been leery of this get license key technique. Downloaded a
 GM>> "bundled" program, paid for the "bundle" and only received one
 GM>> license. Took over three months of e-mail messages (and snail mail of
 GM>> credit card billing) before the issue was resolved and never got an
 GM>> apology for their error. Once burned; twice shy!

 CA> Understandable. I am not Terrabyte and can only hope that they are not
 CA> that way.

It is a "favorite" trick of (at least two, that I'm aware of) on-line
purchasing companies when dealing with 'out of country' customers.

 GM>>>> Also, which program creates the Windows ISO image files? BING?
 GM>>>> Image for Windows? Both?

 CA>>> The website is a bit confusing isn't it? The docs for BootitNG are
 CA>>> confusing in much the same ways. :-)

 GM>> Aren't you just the bearer of such good news? <g> Not much of an
 GM>> incentive to purchase / try the product.

 CA> Well the upside is that I muddled through the user interface and
 CA> documentation well enough to be using BootitNG and I have restored my
 CA> OS partition no less than 15 times using BooitNG's image copies. If I
 CA> can do it I guess most people can do it?

Then there is hope for me... <grin>

 GM>> Have they given any indication that they intend to put their
 GM>> documentation into "layman" terms and clarify any confusion?

 CA> I heard a rumor about that but from a third party not directly
 CA> connected with Terrabyte. Possibly from Langa?

I just checked the Langa site and found no mention of Terrabyte or BootitNG
(unless it was hidden in some article) in the Headlines...

[snip]

 CA>>> Image for Windows uses a windows GUI interface to create the same
 CA>>> image files BootitNG creates but also requires the 'lock' (free)
 CA>>> software Terrabyte offers to lock Windows while the image is being
 CA>>> written. IFW is a bit less expensive but won't do the multiboot,
 CA>>> partitioning, etc. that BootitNG can do. I see no reason to not get
 CA>>> the full magilla myself and have no use for IFW here now that I have
 CA>>> BootitNG installed. :-)

 GM>> I'm intrigued.

 CA> Yes, it sounds interesting to me too but I'm not real happy about
 CA> having to lock files during the image creation process. Either way,
 CA> using IFW or BootitNG, the machine is tied up and cannot be used for
 CA> anything else during the image creation.

I think it's perfectly acceptable to have locked files during the image
creation process.  I know that I wouldn't want to chance a possibility of
file corruption with a file being written to / changed while I was creating
a backup.  What would be the purpose of creating a backup if you wanted to
modify the file while it was being backed up?

If the machine is "tied up" during the image creation process, go outside
and play with the dog / kids, take a walk, or, in your case, use one of the
other machines (you're not tying up _ALL_ the machines when you're creating
the images, are you?).  ;-))

 GM>> I'll have to go back to their site and investigate the upgrade policy

 CA> I don't recall what their update policy is. I've never updated mine
 CA> since what works I don't mess with (usually). :-)

I can see that I have much to learn from you. <g>

           Cheers ... Gerald

... I'm sorry, Canadians have NO accent!
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