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Skriven 2005-03-30 00:23:19 av Daniel O'Leary (1:130/1015.0)
Kommentar till en text av JEAN PARROT
Ärende: Re: Mac.
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On 03/27/2005 09:38 AM, JEAN_PARROT wrote:
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> Hello Daniel !
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> DO> Since I don't know what you did on your ThinkPad, I'll reserve
> DO> judgement on whether a Mac user can do it or not.
>
> Nothing that a normal Wiz could do. I had to prove that the
> Restore CDs were faulty. I got the US version and it had a bug. The
> Cdn version was $49.00 and as I thought that the fault laid with IBM
There is an interesting coincidence, as I did exactly the same thing on my
Powerbook G4. I had to prove that the laptop System DVD had a faulty
stand-alone diagnostic routine to the phone-in customer support rep.
In my case, the existance of this was already known at Apple as there was a
technote in their online searchable database concerning it. It was hardware to
convince the rep of this, than it was to fault-isolate the bad routine to the
DVD. The joys of outsourcing....
> I was trying to get a free issue. Turned down. So, I removed the HD,
> inserted an blank one, loaded XP without all the IBM OEM stuff and
> the Thinkpad ran like Flynn. It sure pointed to the stick in the
> spokes. I then reinserted my original HD, restored it using my
> daughter's Thinkpad, a twin to mine, Restore hidden partition and all
> is now fine.
I recall a similar situation, that occured a number of years ago while I was
helping a friend with a gateway that had a screwed HD with Windows 95 on it.
There was definitely a hidden partition on the CD, and it showd up when I
popped it into a nearby Mac's drive. When I retryied the installation, but
forced it to go to the alternate partition, rather than the default shown in
the docs, the installation finally succeeded. The installation on the primary
CD partition, was missing crucial files.
> DO> I've done lots of
> DO> stuff on Macs that make windows users cringe (grin). You may be
> DO> correct, in that it may have been a task that does not need to be done
> DO> - I have seen alot of that on the Windows side, and experienced it many
> DO> times myself.
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> I do not think that Windows (PC) has a high hand over Mac
> (OX), nor vice-versa. After all, they were designed by humans for
> humans, at least, I think so and we all have the same type of
> neurons to use. Not wanting to wage a "war", let me say that as a
> Mac user, you are above the lot. My experience of Mac users is that
> they do not even own a small Philips screw-driver.
I am currently an avionics engineer, and was an electonics technician before
that. Believe it or not, I even did some hardware design for the IBM PC, as
well as some programming. I designed a pair of interface cards -- one for the
EISA bus as well as one for the microchannel bus. The first versions used
interrupt driven flow control, and the second used DMA, so they could run
faster. Before that I desinged some cards for the Apple II, as well as did
some preey heavy motherboard modifications. Ever add extra interface card slots
to a computer? I actually pulled that trick off, because I had more cards than
slots on my motherboard, and I had a schematic of the i/O decoding circuitry.
> DO> Windows is widely deployed where I work, and I'm
> DO> fortunate and clever enough to have made unix computers a requirement
> DO> for the work I normally do.
>
> This is a sore point with me, at my ripe age, I will not
> consider another platform. I got into this putor business in 80,
> hey, 1980 not at 80, ;-), and I wish that I could go back to 15.
Kids today do not know how much fun computing was in those days. I did CP/M
and had lots of fun playing the disk copy protection breaking game, and getting
my hardware to do stuff it was "not supposed to be able to do, armed with
schamatics, and a copy of the listings of both the firmware and the common disk
routines." That was much more intertaining that playing shootemup.
I tried ML in a C=128 machine and I could not remember enough CLI to
> keep going in a smooth way. ML then was a long and tedious fight
> with my neurons.
I did roughly the same thing on the Apple II.
But I wrote a PRG in BASIC that does astro navigation
> for me. Spherical trig.
I wrote one that showed the paths of satelites over the earth, for a buddy of
mine who worked for NASA . A number of months later I got it back with a bunch
of data. I guess they actually used it for something. My buddy knew I could
not afford a computer, so he bought a couple from a company that was closing
them out, and gave me one. That is how I got started.
> DO> Repair shops are used for several things including broken hardware.
>
> They will not see me in this instance, as you.
Grin. They do not see me much either, as I either fix the hardware mt self or
replace it with new hardware - my purchases are very widely separated....
> DO> My systems see the shop when
> DO> hardware that i cannot repair myself fails
>
> I had a Thinkpad whose KB failed. I took it apart found a
> "broken" trace on the myllard (sp?), repaired it with that paint
> sold to repair a window defogger in cars. It is conductive. That
> Thinpad still runs, maybe 9 years ago.
I hate those mylar tape conductors, though I know they are widely used.
> > I heard that Apple is getting out of the PC side of their
> > business and dedicating all their might to the iPod like market.
>
> That was a joke on my part to rile you a bit. Do not get me
> wrong, the Mac is a fine machine and will do whatever I can do on
> this PC. It is only the mindset of most Mac users that I deplore.
> And the wife here wants her next system to be a Mac.
We are a hard headed bunch, and most of us are a more than just tad on the
zealous side when it comes to our computers. The hard headedness and other
traits are defense mechanisms they we developed from being immersed in a sea of
systems that are not the same. I once thought I'd never own a Mac, primarily
because I was furious with Steve Jobs for killing the Apple II series to
promote the Mac, andd Apple wanted too much money for a computer that could
not easily do what I was already doing with my Apple II - expand its hardware
and write software for it. All aspects of that situation have changed, and I'd
have to say that Jobs has done an incredible accomplishment in getting Apple
the company back on track, by changing those things, as well as many others.
> DO> I am enjoying the conversation, though this echo is not my normal
hangout.
> DO> The reason I chimed in in the first place was I spotted the word
> DO> "Mac" in the subject line while I was importing messages into my BBS.
>
> A very positive conversation, Charles. My opinion obviously
> comes from the Mac users that I know, it is more than likely on the
> wrong bias but I tell them as I see them. One of my BIL, had a nice
> Dell and always getting viruses, he got a Mac and now can not do
> e-mail. Was the virus the Dell's fault, is the e-mail problem the
> Mac's fault ? I am sure that you have seen that type before. Both
> systems run great. He used to blame the Dell, now out of pride, he
> never mentions the Mac.
I have not had problems getting regular email to work on a Mac, and the only
viruses I get exposed to are targeted at the PC. I do blame Microsoft for the
problem, rather than the PC vendor. The basic problem is that the integration
(ie, the inter-program communications system) in Microsoft OS and applications
software allows data used by program to essentially become executable itself,
often without the users intevention or knowledge. This problem can't be fixed
without a major overhaul and a loss of some features and I do not even see it
on the RADAR for a candidate.
> Was the bunny rabbit good to you ? Have a happy and I am glad that you
chimed in.
>
> Have a great day.
> F-86 pilot.
The rabbit was good to the kids and both my wife and I. We'll be sugar binging
for weeks.
Hopefully I can eventually address the fidonet<->BBS software connection
problem I have now. I am running Binkd internet fidonet mail software on one
computer running unix, because there are no dial-up hubs here. I am the last
node to provide dial-up access in the area...
My BBS software and existing Fido mailer/tosser run under an earlier version of
the OS (pre-unix).
The authors of the fido software, bbs software and Mail gateway program that
links them have dropped off the planet. (actually the BBS author now works for
Apple and is not allowed to do anything with the BBS software).
I am currently manually transferring the fido files between the computers,
extracting the incoming files and converting them to the import format used by
the mail gateway software, using the utilities provided by the mailer/tosser.
I also take the compressed packets produced by the mailer/tosse and place
them in the location Binkd will use for outbound traffic. This method is, as
you can suspect getting old fast.
So, I m looking for a solution that can provide dial-up as well as internet
access, that supports the same features that I have now, and import my systems
configuration information so it can use my messag and file system layout as
well as my access control information.
That's a tall order, and it needs to be low-to-no ocst. I may just have to
learn enough coding to writ the solution my self.
Take care, and thanks again for the enterntaning conversation. BTW - No biggie
on the name snafu in the other message - I know how that happens, grin.
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