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Skriven 2007-05-10 00:54:37 av Josh Hill (699.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: unions
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On Wed, 09 May 2007 21:10:18 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <7ha4435acth00hp1hp7i0u04ikvsasks3f@4ax.com>,
> Josh Hill <usereplyto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> But the IRS audits only a fraction of returns. As I understand it,
>> audits usually result in tax due, and compliance audits result in lots
>> of tax due. Tax scofflaws just weigh the risks. AFAIK, few are
>> actually prosecuted for fraud. Besides, the laws are in large measure
>> /written/ to be gamed. The infamous business lunches, for example.
>
>      Another thing that largely was the invention of the Dems. You do=20
>of course know that the executive lunches were a small part of the money=
=20
>that went into the deductions. Those that were hurt the most, according=20
>to every study, were the traveling salesmen, truckers, middle=20
>executives, etc., who could no longer deduct the full value of the meals=
=20
>they had on the road.=20
>    I never have figured out why few people have caught on to the fact=20
>that those who lose the most when the rich are "punished" are the middle=
=20
>class workers. But hey, the rich get gigged so all is well.=20

That's a patently fallacious argument. The taxes that the Feds
collected meant that they didn't have to raise or could lower other
taxes. The money saved on those taxes remained in the pockets of the
taxpayers who spent and provided employment for those who didn't have
employment.

>> sort of investigation that would determine whether forex an executive
>> used his company's fifth avenue apartment for personal entertainment
>> or used his car to pick up his girlfriend is expensive and rare, and
>> because many legal executive perks pay for items that others have to
>> pay on their own, e.g., a chauffeured limousine to and from work.=20
>
>   Again with the outliers.

Hardly. They are illustrative examples, not statistics, and are
clearly identified as such by my "forex." Nor are they outliers. They
are common practices. One has to be either extremely naive about the
business world or dead set on preserving inequities that benefit the
rich and powerful to suppose otherwise.

> Of course if they actually got around to=20
>messing with most of this, the person who would actually feel it the=20
>most would be the middle level executive schlep with a company car who=20
>would be paying a higher part of his disposable income to cover the=20
>taxes.=20

Who cares? All we're asking him to do is pay his share of taxes like
someone who /doesn't/ have these deductions.

>Even
>> us little guys probably benefit from this to some extent. Forex, when
>> you travel, the company typically pays for your food. That's tax free
>> income.
>
>       Maybe. Depends on the type of expense account. Nonaccountable=20
>expense accounts are viewed as  income. Also, if the little guy also=20
>happens to own his business, then it becomes murkier.

Owning your own business is tax heaven, because unless the owner is
incredibly flagrant there's no way the IRS is ever going to know where
he drove the company car or about those freebies he got from the
supplier.

--=20
Josh

"Why should we hear about body bags and deaths,
and how many, what day it=92s going to happen, and=20
how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean,
it=92s, it=92s not relevant. So, why should I waste my=20
beautiful mind on something like that?" - Barbara Bush
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