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Skriven 2006-09-12 21:37:00 av Robert E Starr JR (8754.babylon5)
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 21:22:28 GMT, Amy Guskin <aisling@fjordstone.com>
wrote:

>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:09:13 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote
>(in article=20
><kurtullman-F81941.16091311092006@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx=
>):
>
>> In article <0001HW.C12B386E00ABCF58F0407530@news.verizon.net>,
>>  Amy Guskin <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 14:45:13 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote
>>> (in article=20
>>> <kurtullman-973683.14451311092006@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net=
.mx>):
>>>=20
>>>> In article <0ga8g29soms7mub5ubecf1iimg3lqjflrf@4ax.com>,
>>>> Wesley Struebing <strueb@carpedementem.org> wrote:
>>>> o with 9/11?
>>>>>>=20
>>>>> Indeed.  In fact, the NY Times just released and article (I think
>>>>> about two days ago) which AGAIN states that the CIA says there was =
no
>>>>> link.  This make HOW many times that the Iraqi/Al-Qaida connection =
has
>>>>> been severed?  Yet Cheney still throws in allusions to it, and
>>>>> apparently theses articles keep appearing because people either can=
't
>>>>> or won't believe that "their government" will, and does, lie.
>>>>>=20
>>>> Cn you find me where? I have looked and I have found Cheney talking=20
>>>> about connections between Al Queda and Iraq (more the enemy of my en=
emy=20
>>>> is my friend contacts and some possible intelligence help), but I=20
>>>> haven't found anything that suggests a link with 9-11 in the=20
>>>> admininstration rhetoric. BIG difference. <<
>>>=20
>>> Here's one, just on a cursory Googling.  It's Cheney to Tim Russert o=
n Meet=20
>>> the Press, Sept. 14, 2003:
>>>=20
>>>>> If we=B9re successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representa=
tive=20
>>> government=20
>>> in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a thr=
eat to=20
>>> its neighbors or to the United States, so it=B9s not pursuing weapons=
 of mass=20
>>> destruction, so that it=B9s not a safe haven for terrorists, now we w=
ill have=20
>>> struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the=20
>>> geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now f=
or=20
>>> many=20
>>> years, but most especially on 9/11.<<
>>>=20
>>    "Secures the region so that (the region) can never become a threat =
to=20
>> its neighbors".  Personally this doesn't parse out to Iraq having=20
>> anything to do with 9/11, but that changing Iraq sets ups the=20
>> possibility of changing the areas that DID. <<
>
>I'll allow that it's open to interpretation when looked at with such int=
ense=20
>scrutiny, but I also think you're fooling yourself if you don't believe =
that=20
>the intent here was to erroneously conflate 9/11 and Iraq.
>
A link to that 2003 interview is here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3080244/

IRC, he was also called on it by Russert this past weekend.  Look at
the transcript of Cheney's conversation with him.

(this past Sunday):

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi/

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