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Skriven 2006-09-12 21:39:00 av Robert E Starr JR (8762.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: ABC backs down on 9/1
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"Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message 
news:0001HW.C12B4BFF00B06540F0407530@news.verizon.net...
>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:09:13 -0400, Kurt Ullman wrote
> (in article
>>>
>>    "Secures the region so that (the region) can never become a threat to
>> its neighbors".  Personally this doesn't parse out to Iraq having
>> anything to do with 9/11, but that changing Iraq sets ups the
>> possibility of changing the areas that DID. <<
>
> I'll allow that it's open to interpretation when looked at with such 
> intense
> scrutiny, but I also think you're fooling yourself if you don't believe 
> that
> the intent here was to erroneously conflate 9/11 and Iraq.
>
> Amy
>


Many people seem to forget that the Clinton adminstration justified going 
into Kosovo because the US Information Agency LIED by reporting that the 
number of Albanians massacred approached 400,000.  This was in fact complete 
nonsense.  Spanish forensic surgeon Emilio Pujol was sent to uncover 
evidence of Serbian atrocities.  He reported "we did not find one--not 
one--mass grave."  He added "The final figure of dead in Kosovo will be 2500 
at most."


"At the height of the war, western officials spoke of a death toll as high 
as 100,000. President Bill Clinton said the Nato campaign had prevented 
"deliberate, systematic efforts at ethnic cleansing and genocide". Geoff 
Hoon, then a Foreign Office minister and now the defence secretary, later 
scaled down the estimates. "It appears that about 10,000 people have been 
killed in more than 100 massacres," he said."
http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/scook.htm



An excerpt from 
http://www.infowar-monitor.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=356


"The Kosovan war was, we were repeatedly old, fought 'to stop a humanitarian 
catastrophe'. 'It is no exaggeration to say that what is happening is racial 
genocide' claimed the British Prime Minister ?something we had hoped we 
would never again experience in Europe. Thousands have been murdered, 
100,000 men are missing and hundreds forced to flee their homes and the 
country.?

The Serbs were, according to the US State Department, ?conducting a campaign 
of forced population movement not seen in Europe since WW2?. One US 
Information Agency ?fact? sheet claimed that the number of Albanians 
massacred could be as high as 400,000. Undeterred by the complete lack of 
evidence to back up the claims of Washington and London, political pundits, 
from Lady Thatcher to Ken Livingstone, weighed in with op-ed pieces 
comparing Slobodan Milosevic to Adolf Hitler.

But despite its overwhelming military superiority, Nato?s assault on 
Yugoslavia did not go according to plan. The second week of April was a 
particularly bad news week for the humanitarian interventionists. On 12 
April Nato bombers hit a passenger train in southern Serbia, killing 10 
civilians and injuring 16 others.

It was also revealed that the alliance was, despite earlier denials, using 
depleted uranium. And, worst of all for the hawks in the US and Britain, EU 
leaders were due to meet to discuss a German peace plan which would involve 
a 24-hour suspension of bombing and UN peacekeepers entering Kosovo.

....

"At the Trepca mine, where Nato told us that up to 700 bodies had been 
dumped in acid and whose name the Daily Mirror predicted would ?live 
alongside those of Belsen, Auschwitz and Treblinka?, UN investigators found 
absolutely nothing, a pattern repeated at one Nato mass-grave site after 
another. To date, the total body count of civilians killed in Kosovo in the 
period 1997?99 is still fewer than 3,000, a figure that includes not only 
those killed in open fighting and during Nato air strikes, but also an 
unidentified number of Serbs."

....

"An admission of the government's culpability for the Kosovan war only 
slipped out in July 2000, when Lord Gilbert, the ex-defence minister, told 
the House of Commons that the Rambouillet terms offered to the Yugoslav 
delegation had been 'absolutely intolerable' and expressly designed to 
provoke war. Gilbert's bombshell warranted scarcely line in the mainstream 
British media, which ad been so keen to label the Yugoslavs the uilty party 
a year before."


The rest of the document is interesting reading too.



Other similar references

http://www.snd-us.com/Liberty/st_1758.htm
http://globalresistance.com/news/sp-news.htm
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/pearl123199.htm
                                                                               
          
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