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Skriven 2006-09-24 11:56:00 av Robert E Starr JR (9412.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Can You BELIEVE This?
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"Amy Guskin" <aisling@fjordstone.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C13A15D3000570F8F0407530@news.verizon.net...
> >> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 22:22:54 -0400, Carl wrote
> (in article <YoKdnayHdYvjB4nYnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com>):
>
> >
> >
> > Amy Guskin wrote:
> >
> >> My guess is that those of you who are all "Pshaw, it's nothing!"
over this
> >> phrase are western-European descended white males.
> >
> > I confess I'm disappointed at this comment. <<
>
> Why?  I don't believe that _anyone_ who has _ever_ had any kind of
negative
> aspersions cast upon their ancestry would be able to see
"nigger-rigged" -- 
> or any other version thereof -- as "humorous."  Both Charlie and Mac
say it's
> humorous.

What?  I never said it was humorous.  It's not funny.  It's meant to
convey CONTEMPT about the job.  In Phil's case, it was about the job
done in constructing the bathroom floor supports.



> Having heard "jew him down" used casually, I cannot even remotely
> imagine using such a term as "nigger-rigged" and equating it with
humor, or
> "it's just an idiom" or anything else you might say to whitewash it.
Knowing
> how painful and humiliating such a term can be from personal
experience, I
> thus conjecture that those who _can_ use such a term with impunity
have never
> been hurt by one.

And that's why I said it isn't right to use "jew him down" in front of a
Jew, etc. etc.  That's not polite/nice.  If it's used at all, it should
be in front of people for whom it's not likely to be a flashpoint,
people who you know are not going to be offended by it.


>  And while there are certainly derogatory terms for _any_
> peoples, including western European ones, on the whole, white males of
> western European descent are on the receiving end of comparably much
less
> discrimination from the world around them.

IMO, the world seems to be going overboard with PC-ness.  I guess I
shouldn't wear my Crusade hat because it might offend Muslims.  Maybe I
shouldn't wear my Pennsylvania Railroad hat or jacket because it might
offend the ol' Southern boys (bosses) of Norfolk Southern.  What's
next???  There's so much concern about not offending *anybody* about
*anything*, *ever* that if you say anything it's like you're trying to
navigate a minefield.  If the skins get much thinner around here, pretty
soon there won't be any skins at all.


-- 
Mac Breck (KoshN)
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determined until you killed Gilbert Jax. All in all, you've led a good
life, Ezekiel. Have faith. Your work's appreciated.
                                                                          
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