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Skriven 2006-09-24 12:23:00 av Robert E Starr JR (9454.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: Can You BELIEVE This?
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>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 07:43:04 -0400, Methuselah Jones wrote
(in article <Xns98474E81F21F0methuselahaltgeekorg@216.196.97.131>):

> Carved in mystic runes upon the very living rock, the last words of Jan 
> of rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated make plain:
> 
>> In article <4514c1e8$0$19908$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>, Mac Breck
>> says... 
>>> 
>>> <kruegerb76@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1158987232.894915.163460@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>>>> 
>>>> Mac Breck wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> And that's why I said it isn't right to use "jew him down" in
>>>>> front of a Jew, etc. etc.  That's not polite/nice.  If it's used
>>>>> at all, it should be in front of people for whom it's not likely
>>>>> to be a flashpoint, people who you know are not going to be
>>>>> offended by it. 
>>>> 
>>>> Which would basically have to be some kind of a group or club that
>>>> excluded all Jewish people, wouldn't it?
>>> 
>>> Oh, I don't know, how about *family members* or *People you know are
>>> not Jews*.  Gimme a break.  Clubs that exclude certain groups was
>>> never part of what I was talking about.  Just use common sense.
>> 
>> Don't you see what's wrong with that?  If you have to *figure out*
>> whether the person or people you're talking to are likely to be
>> offended by a particular term, can't you see that it's better off not
>> being used at all? 
> 
> Disclaimer: I'm not arguing for the permissibility of racial epithets.
> However, people constantly tailor their language to their circumstances.
> For example, I swear, but I don't swear around my mother.<<

We had this discussion months ago.  "Fuck" is a bad word because someone(s) 
arbitrarily decided it was a bad word.  Racial epithets are bad words because 
they are specifically meant to denigrate and dehumanize _people_.  You just 
can't put so-called "swear words" in the same class as racial epithets.  No 
one is personally stung when someone says "fuck" to them -- it may hurt their 
ears/sensibilities, but it isn't _personal_ like a racial epithet.

Amy
                                                                               
                               
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