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Skriven 2007-06-21 02:51:22 av Josh Hill (1968.babylon5)
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Ärende: Re: OT: a proposal for increasing teachers' salaries
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 19:04:47 GMT, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <1182183396.409552.248790@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> lizardgirl <gabiks@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> there was concern even with the block grants that folks would migrate
>> to states that offered services that better met their needs.  while
>> this didn't happen, it is a real possibility for some percentage of
>> the population.
>
>    Neve did see what that was such a big whoop. First of all, it has 
>always been thus, even in the old days. I think the feds should pay for 
>it (poverty for any numbers of reasons is not even distributed) and set 
>mimimum for the states and then the states should be able to structure 
>their systems the ways that work best for their states otherwise.  If 
>some, like NYS and CA, for instance, want to have better than average 
>benefits, then they can have them and local taxpayers can pick up the 
>tab.

I was going to say I agree 100%. Then I was going to say, well, 99%,
because I don't think an extra level of compliance checking is a bad
thing, and because sometimes states try to get away with the damndest
things. Then it occurred to me that whatever you do, you're going to
have an OPM situation since the states won't be spending their own
money, which means they'll have a perverse incentive to spend as much
as they can. Which suggests to me that mixed responsibility may be the
best course, or complete Federal responsibility for the base programs
(as opposed to any extras the states want to add). The only real
advantage of leaving stuff to the states is that they can act as
laboratories, and since we're talking about a Federal minimum that
advantage wouldn't apply in this case.

>> i agree (love the quotes :^).  i see very little difference between a
>> pure democracy (which we are not) and communism.  its wrong, i think,
>> to look for *freedom* in the form of govenment, any government.  there
>> is a social cost that must be paid.  the freedoms we enjoy as a
>> democratic society are not free.  taxes are just on of those
>> things.....i have no problem paying more taxes given its the result of
>> me making more money.
>> 
>   And that is what happens now.

Well, it's supposed to be. Meaningful figures are suspiciously absent.

-- 
Josh

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