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Skriven 2007-08-18 20:41:42 av Dennis \(Icarus\) (3864.babylon5)
     Kommentar till en text av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
Ärende: Re: Newsgroup back!
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<StarFuryG7@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1187483089.834746.142330@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 18, 7:38 pm, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > <StarFur...@aol.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1187474168.428462.214320@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > > <StarFur...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
> > > > > > "The Web was created in 1989 by the Englishman Sir Tim
Berners-Lee
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > Belgian Robert Cailliau working at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland."
> >
> > > > >          Well, since we're citing Wikipedia (as one other person
did
> > > > > here already besides) allow me to as well:
> >
> > > > > "Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, decentralized, distributed
> > > > > Internet discussion system that evolved from a general purpose
UUCP
> > > > > architecture of the same name. It was conceived by Duke University
> > > > > graduate students Tom Truscott and Jim Ellis in 1979. Users read
and
> > > > > post e-mail-like messages (called "articles" or "posts") to one or
> > > > > more of a number of categories, called newsgroups. Usenet
resembles
> > > > > bulletin board systems (BBS) in most respects. It resembled the
first
> > > > > earliest forms of Internet forums."
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
> >
> > > On Aug 18, 7:42 am, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > And this proves your contention that Usenet is "the web" in what
manner?
> >
> > >         You're kidding, right?
> >
> > >         Look, it's not my intent to in any way be sarcastic here, but
> > > you did see the "Internet" specifically referred to twice in that
> > > cited passage I take it.
> >
> > What I was questioning was your assertion that "usenet is 'the web'".
> >
> >
> >
> > > > The web is different from Usenet.
> >
> > Good that you see this.
>
>         I didn't write that.
>
>         Usenet is a part of the Internet - It has always been
> considered a part of the Internet. If I might quote from the Wiki
> portion that I cited once again, which makes this quite clear, it
> states as follows:
>
> > > "Usenet (USEr NETwork) is a global, decentralized, distributed
> > > Internet discussion system

I know this. I've read the entry.

>
>         Okay? I mean, you really need not look any further than that
> for the purposes of this discussion. It's clear.
>
> > However, what you wrote was the
following:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated/m
sg/...
> > <quote>
> >         Actually, you're quite wrong on that point. Usenet *is* "the
> > Web."
>
>         I know what I wrote, and I stand by it. If it isn't the Web,
> or an integral part of the Web, how are people communicating via it?

Simply having a web-based client is no different than having a newsreader
asa front-end.

>
>         Look, this isn't really that difficult, and people can split
> hairs over it if they want to, but in my view this is a pretty good
> example of how I've said one thing here, provided data which supports
> it even, and then had someone try and make it sound as though it's an
> orange rather than an apple.
>
>         You can call Usenet its own unique system if you want to --
> technical there's something to that, but the fact remains that it is
> merged with the Internet, and is technically a part of it, and pretty
> much always has been, bottom line.
>

I've never questioned that. What I questioned was your statement that Usenet
*is* "the Web".

Dennis


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