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Text 17777, 102 rader
Skriven 2007-08-27 10:00:09 av Jon Schild (4254.babylon5)
  Kommentar till text 17774 av rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated (4251.babylon5)
Ärende: Re: ATTN JMS: TLT comments/questions, DoFS connection?
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spjricks@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 27, 8:25 am, "Dennis \(Icarus\)" <ala_dir_di...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>><lint...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>>news:1187469857.936496.121000@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Also, seeing Galen again after having somewhat recently read The
>>>Technomage Trilogy, I'm wondering: how much of those books are
>>>canon?      <snip>
>>
>>I thought they were canonical, having worked with outlines provided by
JMS?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon_5_Novels,_novelizations,_short_s...
>>
>>Dennis
>>
>>.
> 
> 
> 
> After searching on 'canon' at jmsnews, I have learned the following:
> 
> 1) To Dream in the City of Sorrows is 100% canon.
> 2) The Shadow Within is 90% canon
> 3) All of the Del-Rey novels (11 of them)

11?  What 11?  I know of 9, the three trilogies.  Are you counting 
novelizations?

> are canon in "broad
> strokes," as they are based on outlines by JMS (10 pages each for the
> psi-corps ones)
> 4) JMS didn't just "toss the outline over the wall"; he was also
> involved to some degree in fleshing out the details with the author.
> 5) The techno-mage trilogy was as yet unwritten when JMS declared The
> Shadow Within to be 90% canon.
> 
> Also, I can't find it anywhere, but I seem to recall a post by JMS
> stating that concerning the Del-Rey novels, the events described in
> them can be viewed as having "happened", unless it is ever
> contradicted by something that is filmed and released.  As I am unable
> to verify this, however, it should be taken with a grain of salt.  I
> have based my conclusions below only on  the preceding (verified)
> facts.
> 
> 
> Based on these facts, here are my conclusions:
> 
> 1) Since Jeane Cavelos was the author of The Shadow Within, it is
> likely that her subsequent novels (the techno-mage trilogy) live up to
> a similar level of canonicity (like my new word?)
> 2) Concerning the spoiler that you mentioned, that particular detail
> is one on which the entire story of the trilogy hangs.  Take it away
> and you got nothin'. I would certainly qualify it as a "broad stroke."
> 3) JMS has also said that if it airs, it's canon.  Galen's flashback
> in the Crusade episode with the forgiving alien jives perfectly with
> the novels, lending credibility to them.
> .
> ** SPOILERS FOLLOW **
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> 4) Based on the preceding conclusions, the answer to your question is
> "yes, it is canonical that techno-mage technology is shadow-tech."
> 
> But, (MORE SPOILERS) remember that before the end of the shadow war,
> Galen achieved unity with his tech, which not only made him the most
> powerful mage ever, it removed the influence of the shadow
> programming, so that he was no longer dealing with the constant
> internal struggle against wanton destruction.  Any emotions after that
> point are his own, without the tech prodding him toward hostility.
> Oh, and he can fly a shadow ship and still be the same after the
> experience.  Way too cool.
> 
> (I'm going to ignore the possibility that the whole "unity with the
> tech" thing is part of the non-canonical 10%)
> 
> *END SPOILER*
> 
> 
>
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