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Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 02:43:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: from jms: too damned much stuff
From: jmsatb5@aol.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated


Paul, if you're saying that you've never made those kinds of sweeping
generalizations or broad insults about peoples other than your own,
then you're just lying.  It's not just a matter of putting words in
your mouth.  Here's another, which couldn't be plainer, about how all
those Americans are fat:

"Other than all those Americans' expanding waistlines? They're walking
around like slo-mo nuclear explosions over there. Another few years
and they'll start going off... :-)"

In doing a simple google on your postings, one finds a nearly endless
supply of insulting, patronizing messages.  What does this have to do
with the other?

First, for me, after spending fifteen years online extolling my love of
all things British, to have one line said primarily in humor as some
kind of condemnation of Britain, to have it taken as ANYTHING other
than a joke, has to be one of the most astonishing leaps in logic in
centuries.

Second, if one checks one's Bible, it suggests that people remove the
log from their own eye before attempting to remove the splinter from
someone else's.  For you, having posted the kind of rants you have
posted directed to Americans and others with whom you disagree, to come
after me for one sentence in 15 years of posting constitutes a level of
hypocrisy that is dazzling to behold.

Third, and finally, the reason it matters...is that condemnation only
takes root when the person doing the condemnation holds to higher
standards of behavior sufficient to earn your respect and thus accept
the rebuke.  When the person doing the criticizing behaves as you
have...well, neither can really follow logically, now can it?

jms



From: Paul Harper <p...@harper.net>
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On 21 Nov 2003 15:50:17 GMT, Chris Croughton <c...@keristor.org>
wrote:

>On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:41:26 +0000, Dave J
>   <requ...@freeuk.com> wrote:
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>> In MsgID<pilprv8p739pipeclvkphb3g6jevr3l...@4ax.com> inside of
>> uk.net.news.config, 'anonymous.t...@groundforce.com' wrote:
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>>>>>>> uk.food+drink.BigMac as soon as possible..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Will Burger King Whoppas be off topic?
>>>>>
>>>>> Wimp-ey!
>>>>
>>>>Building houses is on topic as well?  <g>
>>>>
>>>>(IIRC, 'Wimpey' build houses and 'Wimpy' make burgers...)
>>>
>>>.... and both are inedible crap
>>
>> How 'bout creating uk.food+drink.burgers as a preliminary to
>> uk.food+drink.burgers(.toxic).BigMac ??
>
>Is there any evidence that they are indeed toxic?

Other than all those Americans' expanding waistlines? They're walking
around like slo-mo nuclear explosions over there. Another few years
and they'll start going off... :-)

Paul.



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Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 02:14:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: from jms: too damned much stuff
From: jmsatb5@aol.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated


And by the way...while I'm at it....

For me, the very definition of hypocrisy comes into play when someone
demands of others a level of perfection they do not require of
themselves.

If you're going to twig me as noted below --


Paul Harper wrote:
> "You're not making sense. Even for a Brit" has bugger-all to do with
> any so-called class system and everything to do with prejudice.

-- then you have to be able to take the position that *you* don't do
this sort of thing, because if you do, then you do not have the moral
high ground or authority with which to complain.

Just a few minutes of googling turned up the very same kind of
prejudicial comments you've made about Americans...only far, far worse
than anything I said.

In addition to agreeing that Americans are "really stupid," and
offering that all Americans are "revisionist historians," you've said:

"ALL Americans worship flags of traitor ancestors - from a historical
English perspective."

Of the election, you said "How 100 million Americans can be so dumb as
to elect a twat like him in the first place, let alone twice in a row
is so far beyond my
understanding as to be in the next galaxy. Rampant self-interest. I
guess it's not too difficult to understand it really, huh?"

"Europeans have a much better and wider view of the world."  Also a
very sweeping statement about an entire population.

And my favorite exchange from you:

">That makes americans 20% smarter than 1 billion fucking moron muslims
>around the fucking moron muslim world, fucking rag head cunts.

But apparently considerably less literate."

So you have dismissed and dissed Americans as dumb, self-interested,
illiterate, worshipping flags of traitor ancestors, agreed that we are
"really stupid"...and you have the *gall* to come here and give me a
hard time about saying Britain has a rampant class system?

The citations follow.

One hopes your apology would also follow.

jms


From: Paul Harper <p...@harper.net>
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Subject: Re: ~ MOST AMERICANS NOT TOO SWIFT ~
Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 18:36:00 +0000
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 00:39:39 -0800, David Platt <p...@mail.com>
wrote:

>What percentage of muslims believe all the utter bullshit peddled
>in their fucking moron religion, 100 fucking percent.
>That makes americans 20% smarter than 1 billion fucking moron muslims
>around the fucking moron muslim world, fucking rag head cunts.

But apparently considerably less literate.

Paul.


From: Paul Harper <p...@harper.net>
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Subject: Re: ~ MOST AMERICANS NOT TOO SWIFT ~
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 16:57:06 -0800, David Platt <p...@mail.com>
wrote:

>No they are called "lift up flaps" and are attached to pop
>up picture bokos that you and your remedial class use.

I bow to your superior knowledge on the matter. (Though it can't be
*that* superior if you're living "over there" and not over here...)

Paul (laughing at the latter-day Founding Father who presumably
couldn't cope with the competition over here so went over there where
it's a lot easier...)


From: Paul Harper <p...@harper.net>
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:11:10 +0100, "Anthony"
<anthonyni...@eircom.net> wrote:

>
>"Paul Harper" <p...@harper.net> wrote in message

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