Text 10629, 206 rader
Skriven 2008-07-16 02:49:26 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
Kommentar till text 10569 av Ruth Haffly (1:396/45.28)
Ärende: coffee or tea?
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Hi Ruth!
>> > Sometimes the "let it be" principle is better than disturbing it.
>> I typically hire people to clean once in a while (not that frequently)
>> - if for some reason I just can't get it done like when I was on those
>> pills.. would have made it impossible to do anything of consequence.
> I can see why. (G)
Well, it wasn't supposed to do that to me (grin).
> I've thought of hiring but haven't yet--except before
> we move. It's easier to get someone to clean to military specs than to
> do it myself with my limitations.
I can understand that..
>> > patient (I'd tried telling him that the test wasn't a good idea.).
>> He > also monitored me extra close after that.
>> That could have been such a bad situation...
> Yes, so having a great pulminologist was literally, a life saver. I came
> down with pnuemonia later that year and went to the Schofield Barracks
> clinic acute care clinic as it was after regular duty hours. I got some
> heavy duty meds. When I saw my regular doctor a few days later, he said
> that he'd have put me in the hospital if I'd seen him initially. By
No doubt.. :(
> then I was cleared up enough to function, albeit at a greatly reduced
> pace for a few weeks.
Well, at least you weren't worse.
>>> there is some reaction going on. Our other lab, Priscilla, doesn't
>>> bother her at all .. that I find interesting.
>> > It is interesting; you would think the dogs would have similar body
>> > chemistry.
>> Two different litters from different breeders, both in from Louisville
> OK, that clears things up,
Yes, and no.. they are the same breed.. different parents of course. You'd
expect their coats to be somewhat similar, but they are different..
>> though. It is just weird :) Labs have different types of heads too..
>> one type of black lab is called "Block Head", where the head of the
>> dog is very square. Toby is a 'block head' lab (in MORE ways than one
> Like our Sam--he was AKC registered but it didn't register in his head.
Lol :) Yes, definitely.
>> hahaha). You'll see the difference when you see Priscilla.
> Not that much longer now.
Yep :)
>> According to the 'expert of the day' (wikipedia), it is tea that has
>> the higher amount... :)
> Never would have thought it.
When you think about how many times you were given tea when you had a cold when
you were younger? :)
>>> asthma.. "Mrs. K, please give your daughter a cup of weak tea with 1
>>> teaspoon honey and 2 teaspoons lemon juice - and if that doesn't help,
>>> open the window in her room and put her head out in the cold night
>>> air!!" (g).
>> > I can see the first part of advice but the 2nd................cold
>> can > easily trigger an attack.
>> Well, I suppose that would depend on the type of bronchitis/asthma a
>> person had.. how low down in the lung the congestion was, etc. In
>> this case, he'd seen her recently and knew her general state. He'd
>> been treating her for
>> bronchitis/asthma when this one particular night, my daughter did
>> literally turn gray from not being able to breathe.
> Even a steam tent wouldn't have worked?
No, it didn't help.
>I guess if it's a dry cold, it
> would have been good but a damp cold..............
This was a frigid night.. no humidity to speak of that I remember.
>> > Last time I was up in NY during the winter, I
>> > made sure I grabbed a scarf to put over my nose & mouth every time I
>> > went out. Still came back to AZ with bronchitis.
>> In her case, she went from turning gray to being able to breathe
>> again. The cold night air cut through all the garbage in her lungs..
>> I was a bit relieved. (g). With my daughter at least, it seemed the
> You were more than a bit relieved. (G)
hehehe.. Yes for sure :)
>> only time she got bronchitis (which would then run into asthma very
>> often) was if she'd gotten a cold passed on by someone else. I think
> Some years ago I stopped getting colds and have just gotten bronchitis.
> But, it has been triggered from somebody else's cold, like your
> daughter. Another trigger in AZ was whenever we'd visit my sister;
> she's a heavy smoker. I'd always come home either with bronchitis or
> have it within a day or so of getting home.
Things should go ok here I think.
>> susceptable or weakened state so that something like the common cold
>> (that most people might barely notice having) eventually would cause
>> such congestion... When it got very bad, the pediatricians put her on
>> asthma drugs which we were instructed to give her at the first sign of
>> a runny nose.. to keep it from turning into bronchitis/asthma. Who
> Is she a tea drinker today?
Most certainly. That's all she drank for years.. a year or so ago she felt she
really needed to start drinking coffee to keep up with work (she is a sales and
marketing manager), the kids, home-schooling her 12 year-old, and another job
she does (with Midwives) - but finally she decided to not continue drinking it
at all.. it made her too irritable. So now she's back to only tea.
>> knows how they would treat a baby like that today, though. I know
>> they have so many more drugs available.. if I remember correctly, drug
> Still, are they safe at pediatric levels?
I haven't kept up with what drugs are used for children, since none of her kids
have asthma which is great.. but yes, that aspect is scarey. It bothered me
giving her theophylline when she was so young (it was liquid) but it did the
job.
>> researchers were even able to create drugs that dilated only the
>> lungs, not the rest of the body, like theophylline did? (boy did she
>> hate that medication, and I couldn't blame her :( ).
> I remember some friends who's one kid hated it too. I had it in the pill
> form but the HI pulminologist discontinued it and put me on Advair.
I guess that's the new treatment these days. I think that's what my son's
girlfriend takes as well.
>> on type, brand[13] and brewing method.[14] Tea also contains small
>> amounts of theobromine and theophylline.[15] Tea also contains
>> fluoride, with certain types of brick tea made from old leaves and
>> stems having the highest levels.[16]
>> I thought this was interesting:
>> Theophylline was first extracted from tea leaves around 1888 by the
>> German biologist Albrecht Kossel.
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theophylline)
> Very interesting; I'd always heard about coffee having it but not tea.
I think that's because at the time when that 'came out', the assaying tools
hadn't been applied to tea the way they had been to coffee.. just guessing. It
reminds me a bit of one of the other meds I take for fatigue.. it's really a
flu vaccine.. After some neurologist noticed his MS patients not suffering
fatigue while one it, it was tested.. modern assaying tools showed researchers
that it contained a small amount of L-DOPA in it..
>> Hmm.... no, just extremely weak legs that didn't want to listen to
>> anything I "said" to them (bg).
> It could have been interesting. If I know in advance, I'll plan not to
> do anything major (no cooking up a storm--or even a supper) until it
> passes.
This wasn't expected :) Not at all. They never know how a particular drug is
going to affect a person with MS, I think. That's why I stay off all of them
except for a very few (to my Dr.'s dismay (g)). This was supposed to make my
walking better (g).
>> coming > down with the flu. Dr. said to discontinue it, which I did,
>> and the
>> > symptoms cleared up as fast as they'd come on. I saw him (same
>> It kills me that some of these drugs we are now so lucky to see
>> advertised on TV sound so bad for people..
> Ever listen to the list of possible side effects? Some are worse than
oh yes, we can't believe some of the adds..
> what the med is supposed to help. I've got a friend who says that
> singular has been a big help for her asthma so I know it's not bad for
> everybody.
That's good to hear.. sometimes you really wonder :(
Take care,
Janis
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