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Skriven 2008-08-18 02:13:02 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
  Kommentar till text 12115 av Ruth Haffly (1:396/45.28)
Ärende: summer gardens in ny                                     [1]
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Hi Ruth!

Boy, I'm going to try to trim this message down some :)

> Same here; you'd need lots of sugar in it.  Besides, the apples are puny
> thing if I remember right.  It would take a lot to fill hte pie.

hahahahaha.. don't tempt me into trying it (laugh).. we have two trees that are
LOADED with crabapples every year :) :)

Well if I do, I will be sure to let you know but I think I'll come to my senses
before then.

Oh, today we went to my daughter's house.. they're thinking of moving because
they need more room for the 3 boys.. Alex being 13 soon ought to have his own
room, and the house they are renting right now is too small for that :( anyway,
the most incredible thing was they took us to see the house they are thinking
of moving to..It's a great house outside the city of Ithaca.. built in about
1810 ... there are apple trees and plum trees in the backyard.. which of course
we had to try.. boy.. outrageously good plums :)  We'll probably have to help
them with this move $$ wise.. But it's that nice of a house.. It had been built
for the parson in a small village outside Ithaca in the 1800's.. it's
absolutely beautiful. If I was rich, I'd buy it (g).  The owners only want to
rent it though (g).

>> It was about the same here Monday/Tues. after the picnic.. then it
>> turned very cold (to MY taste (grin)). It's been like that since..

And today in Ithaca it was back up to the high eighties.. I'd bet it was the
same in Windsor all day :).. so maybe there's hope for the tomatoes.

>> chilly in the morning (me running around in shorts, freezing (grin)),
>> then in the afternoon warming up to about 75+.. Ron says this is
>> unusual.. wish my memory was better (grin).. I also don't remember it
>> being this chilly in August last year.. I'm really worried about my
> It iss unusual for your area but not a bit east in the Catskills.  The

Yep, definitely.

> river should keepyour temps more moderated--if it has had a chance to
> warm up over the summer.

See, that's the problem.. remember our spring was about non-existant.. I don't
know really though.. it's been too many years since I took Earth Science in
High School ... I have a feeling the water around here is very cold still..
just a guess.  You don't see as many people fishing in the Delaware, that's for
sure... Saw a few today.. but I've seen more in other warmer years.

>> 'lighter green'.. bummer :( :(  Ah well.. if that happens, I'll go to
>> the orchard in September, they always have a LOT of Romas they've
>> grown in their garden's there.  They probably use greenhouses.

> Dad is finally getting a bit of a blush on his tomatoes.  He always

Oh blush, like "red" :)  Not here, not as of today.. I check every day darnit
:) :)

> ripened.  Ergo, the house can have rows of tomatoes along windowsills
> and other places in various stages of ripeness.

Best way I've found to ripen them off the vine is to put them in brown paper
bags (lunch bag size, not big grocery size) and they ripen without rotting
_most_ of the time :) :)  Jim Crockett's book ("Crockett's Victory Garden"
talks about that.

>> The Gurdgief movement was a pretty quiet one (at least in our area, I
>> don't know about others), but still always felt very cultish to me.. I
>> don't think they made it upstate to Sullivan County, etc though.  Very
>> closed group.  They weren't quite hippies.. more "back to basics" and
>> "physical-work-to-releive stress", "purify yourself" people. But yes,
>> it would have been about the time I think.

> I don't think that movement ever really took hold seriously in the
> Catskills. They got more of the hippies,

Umm.. I resemble that remark Lol..

Seriously.. some of the hippies didn't 'come' to Sullivan County, Ron says (and
he knows (laugh)) that some of them were born there. Ron went to Woodstock on
Max Yasgur's farm.. My dad wouldn't let me go - with my oldest sister and my
boyfriend.. so they just went without me... I was a little upset, but I was
working anyway and wouldn't have taken off the time.  I was a lab assistant at
the local hospital, which was pretty neat for a kid to be doing.  They were
training me to take blood, run blood tests, etc. Probably because of my Dad and
his friends and my interest in it all.

>>> Yes, I'm sure it can be for some doctors.. but that's why I go to NYC.
>> > know the feeling; I've dealt with so many doctors and dentists all
>> my > (married) life.  Some I wished I could keep forever; others, good

>> haha.. you are not kidding.. The first neurologist I went to was of
>> the "so long, goodbye, good riddance" type.. the first doctor I had in
>> NYC was amazing.. I felt very bad when he retired. hehe.. I can hear
>> him now, "janis, what are we to do with you??"  ... because I refused
>> so many of the new treatments (g). But he was always cool about it,
>> because he understood that all of these new treatments were so new and
>> so really experimental.  He didn't blame me one bit for resisting.

> He's one that was worth keeping.

Yes, he sure was. When the current neurolgist, Dr. Apatoff, saw me for the
first time, and was asking me about my "history", I mentioned to him that I'd
been a patient/at this same hospital under Dr. Mark Horwich for YEARS.. and he
said, Oh .. yes! I know Dr. Mark Horwich .. I'd known that Dr. H was one of the
leading teachers/surgeons at NYHospital before they merged with Columbia
Presbeterion, but it was still good to hear.. that Dr. Horwich was that neat a
Dr. in other people's eyes.  I knew it (grin).  When I was working in college,
on of the jobs I'd had was a Video clerk (I got to see some neat films, like La
Strada from Fellini.. that was neat. I was lost in some of those films.. then
all of a sudden Dr. Horwich turns up in an educational film for other doctors,
about MS.. it was a trip because I'd just started seeing him.

>Too bad he retired but if he had that
> outlook all his medical career, he did well.  Lots better than the
> "let's try this or that" practioners.

Definitely.. you could tell it from talking to Dr. Apatoff about him.. it kind
of brought Apatoff to his senses, if that makes sense (Rember this guy?? (g))
I'm sure that was a lot of Apatoff's backing off keeping me on that Topamax
that literally almost killed me.. at least it felt that way, don't know how
close I came to be honest.. but my blood pressure and my weight was never this
low.. it was definitely bad for me... and I'm still trying to recover.  Darn, I
know some drugs can take 6 months to get out of your system, I'm hoping this
one isn't like that, or worse.

>> > And too, now I know what to look for in certain illnesses.
>> Sniffles constantly (grin).. allerigies..   Walk outside on a lovely
>> spring or summer day, and start holding your head and/or wiping your
>> eyes (pollen allergies). Mow the lawn and want to die. (grass pollen
>> allergies).. Walk in a house with plaster walls and dirt basement

> And I could add to that list.

Lol, know what you mean.. drink milk? the blessing of society kills your
intestines.. but I think my biggest problem that I won't admit is wheat.. darn
think about it... pasta.. Cake :) :) I've tried the alternatives (rice flour
pasta... some other funny ones ;)) Can't stand them.

>[..]  I can tell though when it's going to
>> rain before everyone else (laugh).

> I can too, with all the broken bones I've had.(G)

Ah yes, that would do it.. I've never broken a single bone in my life.. my dad
was so overprotective of me.. more than the other kids in the house.. but it
didn't matter.. when you take prednisone in such high doses, no matter for how
long,you get arthritis.. and sometimes worse. ouch :) I sure have it in my
elbows and knees.. elbows could be from drumming though, I don't know.. I was
good and was asked to play a lot :) I was asked to play songs on cymbals.. on
Tenor drums.. on snare drums.. I loved it anyway.

>> It was very intersting :)  We have always eaten healthy so I'd do the
>> same pretty much.  I found it very interesting that the "Mediterranean
>> Diet" was more recently espoused as one the best way for people to
>> eat... it's the way we've eaten for years. I guess that comes mainly
>> from the sicilian side of my family, as opposed to the "calabrian" or
>> "northern Italian" family members...

> And we've always tried to eat "healthy".  Steve's mom cooked that way
> more than my mom but we've gone further than she did.  The use of whole
> grains in our diet is one major change from the way we were brought
> up--on white everything.

Yep, just how we both were brought up.. it's all really that people knew then..
then we all learned about what really counts :) Tonight Lauren made pesto with
nutritional yeast instead of Italian cheese, and with completly whole wheat
macaroni.. my guts were ok for about 10 minutes, then said "no more!!"
(laugh).. seriously, it was bad..It's a known thing with some MS people. enough
for me to try cutting it out completely.  Darn,  that's a lot of food that I
love :)

>>> miserable "no-spring" spring, and then that drug I was taking, my
>>> garden really took a hit.  But there's some stuff doing quite well..
>>> Lovely asparagus fern Lol..

>> > It was a nice looking jungle for a few days. (G) But, we all enjoyed
>> > ourselves.  Any comments from the trash pick up crew about the
>> remains

no, not a word.. they don't talk much, those garbage guys :)

Take care,
Janis

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