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Skriven 2008-06-05 22:39:00 av JOAN MACDIARMID (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHAEL LOO
Ärende: puters & ned lud 404
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 Hi, Michael,

 JM> It's not just being technologically behind (at least
 JM> in terms of what I own), for me it's a matter of being
 JM> a cheapskate.

 ML> I didn't mean to imply any disapproval at technological
 ML> lagging edgedness for whatever reason. Being cheap, i.e.,
 ML> recycling and making do with what one has, is for me a
 ML> positive virtue; following Ned Lud isn't a big demerit
 ML> in my eyes, either.

 Oh, no offense was taken. I do glory in my being out of step
 with some aspects of our society I consider to be stupid.

 ML> Besides, I feel the more they make the
 JM> technology "easy to use", the stupider it encourages
 JM> the users to be.

 ML> Indeed I agree. And as soon as something goes vaguely
 ML> wrong, the users have no clue as to what to do about it
 ML> (I am guilty of this kind of stupidity at times, especially
 ML> regarding hardware).

 Well, they hide the details about how anything works,
 and NOTHING comes with a decent manual any more. The
 manufacturers WANT us ignorant, I am sure, so we will
 buy extra service contracts from them.

 ML> some of my editing/indexing clients put out titles with
 ...
 ML> Management, it would perhaps not do to be known as a Luddite.

 JM> So we are to be pushed into always buying the newest
 JM> thing available for the status it supposedly confers?

 ML> The problem is not that the newest thing confers status but
 ML> that the lack of it confers negative status, something that
 ML> I can't afford in that particular world.
 ML> but in editorial, well,
 ML> he who has the most toys gets the most jobs. I've been turned
 ML> away from jobs because I don't have QuarkExpress, for example.

 JM> What if you were using the newest and fanciest and your
 JM> clients couldn't open YOUR files? Cutting edge can
 JM> cut both ways. Using an older format recognized by newer
 JM> word processors does avoid that problem.
 ML> It isn't going to cut both ways in this case, as my clients
 ML> always have the latest trendy everything.

 Hm, I can sort of see that, as they use their
 machines professionally, so could justify the
 expense of the newest issues of the professional
 software and hardware, and use the purchase of those
 as a tax deduction to boot. Actually, so could you,
 if you can show your purchases are specifically for
 work activities. If I can find a way to use my
 computer to make money, maybe I will justify going
 for the latest and greatest.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

      Title: Great Northern Minestrone
 Categories: Soups
      Yield: 1 Recipe

      1 c  Idaho Great Northern Beans
           -- rinsed
           Water
    1/2 c  Chopped onion
      1 ts Minced garlic
      1 tb Dry basil
      1 ts Dry oregano
      1 ts Salt
           Pepper, to taste
           Leftover ham or beef bones
     16 oz Tomatoes, undrained
      4 c  Thinly sliced vegetable
           --(carrots, zucchini,
           --celery, cabbage)
    1/2 c  Small macaroni
    1/4 c  Chopped parsley
           Grated Parmesan cheese

  Add beans to 3 cups boiling water; boil for 2 minutes. Cover and let
  stand 1 to 4 hours. Drain and rinse well. Place beans in kettle. Add
  6 cups water, onion, garlic, basil, oregano, salt, pepper and ham or
  beef bones. Bring to boil. Cover and simmer 1 hour or until beans are
  almost tender. Add tomatoes, vegetables, macaroni and parsley,
  breaking up tomatoes. Cover and simmer 1/2 hour longer or until
  ingredients are done. Add more water if a thinner consistency is
  desired. Adjust seasonings. Serve with grated Parmesan cheese. Makes
  2 to 2-1/2 quarts.

  Copyright IDAHO BEAN COMMISSION  P.O.Box 9433...Boise, Idaho 83707
  <Electronic format by Karen Mintzias>

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