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Skriven 2013-06-28 22:01:11 av Nancy Backus (1:261/1381.0)
   Kommentar till text 1791 av MICHAEL LOO (1:123/140)
Ärende: Re: travel 772
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-=> Quoting MICHAEL LOO to NANCY BACKUS on 26 Jun 13  16:31:00 <=-

 NB>> Taking away the at-grade crossings is a major part of it.. There's
 NB>> also something about how the interstates intersect, for which there is
 NB>> some major de/con-struction happening in Binghamton where I81 and
 NB>> Rt17/I86 cross paths...
 ML> There are several places where interstates intersect and
 ML> the crossings have grades and even traffic lights. Going
 ML> into Springfield, MA I think is one; also I-70 and 76 in
 ML> Pennsylvania. Maybe those are old roads that have been
 ML> grandfathered, and the new standards are more strict, who knows. 

I'd guess at least that the new standards are more strict.  The ends of
interstates often are at grade, with a traffic light.  And any
intersections that are at grade for interstates (not merely multi-lane
limited access roads) are undoubtedly the exception, not the rule.

 ML> I remember at-grade train crossings as well - one on
 ML> I-35 north of Austin that surprised and perhaps outraged
 ML> me back when I saw it (visiting my uncle at UT, so that
 ML> was in the early '60s).

That may well be changed by now.  I've not encountered anything like
that... although admittedly, most of my experience has been east
coast... 

 NB>> Yeah... I've been watching the transformations of both Rt15/I99 and
 NB>> Rt17/I86, as they are the major routes for visiting two of my sisters
 NB>> and other family...  What you saw there may be how they are going to
 NB>> unravel Rt 15 going down through South Williamsport
 ML> I think it's going to abandon the US 15 path and follow the
 ML> 220 corridor down through Jersey Shore and Lock Haven, so
 ML> it needn't mess with South Williamsport at all.

If it goes a lot out of the way, I'll probably end up leaving the
interstate for old Rt15 through South Williamsport... and rejoining
later...  ;)  
 
 ML>> catch and hold your attention. I-97 is another oddity. As
 ML>> far as I can tell, it is merely a 20-mile long connector
 ML>> between just shy of Baltimore and just shy of Annapolis.
 ML>> Some senator from Maryland must have had a lot of clout
 ML>> at one time, that's all I can say.
 NB>> It's in place of Rt 3, that I used to take from Baltimore to
 NB>> Annapolis... it does save some time, I must admit... :) 
 ML> Ah, route 3 and its checkered career. Did you know
 ML> that there's a route 3AA that is under 100 paces long
 ML> and a route 3AB that goes from dead end to dead end?
 ML> Neither has anything to do with what is left of rte 3,
 ML> but perhaps they once did.

I'm not at all surprised.  They probably did at one time.  NY's route 3,
totally unrelated to MD's, has been modernized (and somewhat rerouted) a
number of times... one can still follow bits of old route 3... and see
other bits from time to time, just some old concrete in front of some
old house or farm.  :)

 NB>> Who knows if someday it will be a more extensive route...  :)
 ML> There doesn't seem to be any place for it to go.
 ML> Perhaps a discontinuous section somewhere, or if they
 ML> went interstate-happy they could fancy up US 301.

Guess we'll find out some day... when they start building it... or if
they end up totally leaving it be... ;)

 ML> Boy, we can go from food geeks to road geeks in the
 ML> twinkling of an eye.

We're just such well-rounded people...  ;)

 ML> Title: Twinkie Pie

And I heard on the news that Twinkies are coming back into production,
this fall, I think they said... ;)

ttyl          neb

... I'm not out to lunch, I'm out for a four course meal.
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