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Skriven 2015-11-28 14:58:00 av NANCY BACKUS (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHAEL LOO
Ärende: Re: balancing 552
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-=> Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 11-26-15  00:56 <=-

 >  ML> Ben & Jerry's model was (at one time, and I'd
 >  ML> like it to still be) that no job paid more
 >  ML> than 7 times the lowest-paid one. I'd rather
 >  ML> the number was maybe 2 or 3, but that's just me.
 > I'd be happy enough with the Ben & Jerry's model... most of corporate
 > America's models are simply obscene.... previous employers included... 
 ML> Taking it to the old reductio, I envision a hut
 ML> that has a thousand sacks of grain within sight
 ML> of a thousand huts that have one sack of grain
 ML> each. Trouble and strife.

Indeed.
 
 >  ML> The question isn't addressed, though, of whether
 >  ML> grad school may cause mental illness or mental 
 >  ML> illness may cause the desire to go to grad school.
 > I'd vote for some of each...  ;>   The old issue of nature vs.
 > nurture... so to speak...  ;)
 ML> So to speak. I think in this case grad school is
 ML> a stand-in for any old kind of driven hyper-
 ML> achievement-oriented behavior.
 
Seems a reasonable possibility... 

 >  > And, had he made it explicit, you might have been willing to go with...
 >  ML> Yep. Not eager to go, but if the question had been
 >  ML> framed differently, my answer would likely have
 >  ML> been, give me 10 minutes, and I'll be right there.
 > I suppose it's part training people around one to be more explicit, and
 > part training one's self to be more likely to explore intent... I know
 > I'm more likely to use "willing to" as opposed to "want to"
 ML> The next time the guy asked me in the same way, I 
 ML> said yes just to balance things out.

That works, too... ;)

 > and also likely to respond to "want to?" with "maybe not
 > want, but would be willing"...  ;)  If angling for company, one is
 > likely to get a "please" or similar at that point...  :)
 ML> I suppose. But then the asking person is likely to
 ML> sense that willing to actually means reluctant to.

Not necessarily...  just a gradation of desire...  ;)

 >  ML> though Loo, Ceideburg, or Pitts may not been the
 >  ML> dish's originator. Some are misattributions 
 >  ML> altogether (I suspect automated procedures and 
 >  ML> scripts that sometimes ran amok).
 > Ah.  So at this point, when one comes across such, one probably couldn't
 > tell with any degree of certainty the original source, and possibly not
 > even the secondary source(s)...  ;)
 ML> The question of provenance is treated most
 ML> cavalierly these days, not just on the Internet.

Sadly true....

 ML> I make a certain effort to give an appropriate 
 ML> amount of credit or attribution if that is
 ML> readily findable; otherwise "Source unknown"
 ML> appears on a sizable proportion of what I post.

Often the best one can do...  :)

ttyl       neb

... Because things are the way they are they won't stay the way they are.

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