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Text 14026, 58 rader
Skriven 2005-10-02 06:41:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av RAYMOND YATES
Ärende: Menno Blom
==================
-=> Quoting Raymond Yates to David Drummond <=-
 
 DD>>>>> What minor? Blom only *thought* he was communicating with a
 DD>>>>> minor.
 
 RY>>>> What part of acted on that belief are you not understanding?
 
 DD>>> What part of "did not have sex with a minor" do you not
 DD>>> understand?
 
 RY>> Which was not what he was charged with now, was it.. there was no
 RY>> evidence he
 RY>> had had sex with her.. What did the evidence show?
 
 DD>>> On the other hand....
 
 DD>>> If I believe a 14yo girl to be ver the age of consent (because
 DD>>> she manages to convince me of that) and act on that belief by
 DD>>> slipping her a length, is that OK under US laws?
 
 RY>> No, of course not, as the truth of the matter would come out in
 RY>> court...
 
 DD> But I *believed* she was over the AOC. You're saying Blom was guilty
 DD> because he believed the "girl" was 14.

 RY> And... Acted on that belief in an illegal manner.

 RY> One of the Famous Last Words in court " But your Honor! She said she
 RY> was 18!" 
 RY> Does not get them any less jail time..
 
 RY>> I can see where you were going with that, butit's not the same
 RY>> thing at all.
 
 DD> Yes, in my (hypothetical) case I fucked her - Blom did nothing.
 
 RY>> Still, you would be convicted on your actions, like Blom was.
 
 DD> Blom did no actions in USA relative to this alleged crime. He only
 DD> thought of doing it (which he claims was when he was in Netherlands).

 RY> But David, as we've pointed out he communicated his desires to her..
 RY> And that's actions.. That she was in the states at the time, means that
 RY> that part of the crime was committed here.. as it crossed boundaries..

 RY> IF he had only trhought about it and done nothing, there would have
 RY> been no way the police would have become aware of the matter at all.

Trying to use a moral-based argument with these Dutch is a waste 
of time.  However I think they have probably learned *one* thing 
-- Dutch or not, you cannot commit a crime in Chicago!

... "Put out that cigarette", Tom said breathlessly.

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