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Skriven 2005-11-25 17:32:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av ALEX SHAKHAYLO
Ärende: United States of Europe
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-=> Quoting Alex Shakhaylo to Frank Scheidt <=-

 FS>> I live in the US.  I'm simply lucky, and grateful for that fact.
 
 AS>> That's nice. You've made the first step to get rid of your
 AS>> superciliousness.
 
 FS> Huh?  *What* superciliousness???

 AS> When you realize it, it will be the second step.

Let's go back before the *first* step ...
 
 FS>> I've read enough about European history and I've read enough
 FS>> international news during the past seven decades to have a good
 FS>> idea as to what Europe is like.
 
 AS>> OK. Can you list your readings ?
 
 FS> If I wanted to spend a lot of time looking up what I have read,
 FS> yes.  However yours is merely a frivolous request so I'll not
 FS> bother.  Besides there's no real need for me to prove anything to
 FS> you.  I know what I know.

 AS> It's OK. I also don't need to proove anything to you because I know
 AS> what I know. So .. it appears we have nothing to talk about.
 
Huh?  We can talk without having to "prove" everything.  I can 
pick out the fragments of truth you post and reject the rest.  
That doesn't bother me.

 FS>> Besides my parents were *born*
 FS>> there.  Also I took German language, literature and geography
 FS>> courses at the university beginning shortly after WWII.
 
 AS>> Presumabely it was part of the Germany that was under US control
 AS>> at those times.
 
 FS> I don't know.  What I *do* know is that they were Jewish
 FS> refugees.

 AS> It proves nothing. Hitler itself had judish blood.
 
I doubt it, but that, too, proves nothing ...

 FS>> The professors were German Jewish refugees who told us a lot
 FS>> of how life was there in *their* cases.  So don't tell me I
 FS>> don't know anything about Europe.
 
 AS>> This is just an episode. Something like making conclusions about
 AS>> US remembering only Lynch law it used to practice.
 
 FS> Trivial stuff!

 AS> "What do mean by that ? That is not an answer" (c) JC Superstar.

Since you asked no question there was no "answer" called for.
 
 FS>> That's your privilege -- to choose or reject life here.  It
 FS>> doesn't matter to me in the least.  I'm used to having people
 FS>> make free choices after all.
 
 AS>> Then there is no sense in talking about immigrants. They just
 AS>> made their personal choice.
 
 FS> You don't like discussing immigrants since they are *another* bit
 FS> of evidence testifying to the desirability of living in the U.S.

 AS> If I thougth this way I'd try to immigrate there. Some of my
 AS> friend did it without too much efforts. Now, after 10 years
 AS> of immigration, they turned to be not that happy they seemed
 AS> from the start. 

Maybe they had the same attitude *you* have, seeking heaven on 
earth here with streets paved with gold.  We have to *work* to 
enjoy the vast benefits of this wonderful nation.

 AS> Why should I think that US is the best place
 AS> on the Earth ? 

Maybe it *isn't*.  Have you ever considered *that*?

 AS> BTW, my friends who went to Australia are more
 AS> happy. So in any case I regard Auth as more favourable place
 AS> for a human being to live.
 
That's *easy* to understand.  Australia is a very socialist 
land -- kind of like Russia but with a lot more freedom.  The 
transition for your socialist friends should be easy.

 FS> Immigrants have *initiative* -- quite unlike the majority of
 FS> Europeans.

 AS> They just like money a bit more than a Person that really needs
 AS> to be happy :)
 
Money doesn't insure happiness, but it can contribute to it.

 AS>> I regard my life as something natural like wind and rain. But
 AS>> life itself worth nothing without ones' efforts so I can't enjoy
 AS>> just effortless plant existing. I rather value those
 AS>> opportunities the life presents and enjoy those achievements I
 AS>> owned due to my efforts. I don't value those benefits that are
 AS>> not earned. They often cause groundless proud for the fakes.
 
 FS> Sorry that you don't realize exactly how it was you came into
 FS> being ... [sigh] ... and *I* am not the one to explain it to you.

 AS> You should not be disturbed by this. I'm quite happy to be
 AS> there where I am. But I'm sure you'd be quite impotent here.
 AS> And this is what makes me feel better :)

"Impotent"???   Wow!  Russia sterilizes immigrants?

... CAUTION!  Slippery when oiled.

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