Text 16989, 126 rader
Skriven 2005-11-26 02:17:00 av Alex Shakhaylo (2:461/701)
  Kommentar till text 16978 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
Ärende: United States of Europe
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*** Answering a msg seen in area CC (CC).

Hi, FRANK!

25 Nov 05 17:32, FRANK SCHEIDT said to ALEX SHAKHAYLO:

 FS>>> I live in the US.  I'm simply lucky, and grateful for that fact.

 AS>>> That's nice. You've made the first step to get rid of your
 AS>>> superciliousness.

 FS>> Huh?  *What* superciliousness???

 AS>> When you realize it, it will be the second step.

 FS> Let's go back before the *first* step ...

I'm not in a mood to go back. I look only forward :)

 FS>> I don't know.  What I *do* know is that they were Jewish
 FS>> refugees.

 AS>> It proves nothing. Hitler itself had judish blood.

 FS> I doubt it,

In case none of your readings signed it I doubt your readings
can be regarded as a history books. His grandma was jewess.

 FS> but that, too, proves nothing ...

But of course ! :)

 AS>>> Then there is no sense in talking about immigrants. They just
 AS>>> made their personal choice.

 FS>> You don't like discussing immigrants since they are *another* bit
 FS>> of evidence testifying to the desirability of living in the U.S.

 AS>> If I thougth this way I'd try to immigrate there. Some of my
 AS>> friend did it without too much efforts. Now, after 10 years
 AS>> of immigration, they turned to be not that happy they seemed
 AS>> from the start.

 FS> Maybe they had the same attitude *you* have, seeking heaven on
 FS> earth here with streets paved with gold.

Where from have you got my attitude ? What do you know about me
except the few words I put here ? :)

 FS> We have to *work* to
 FS> enjoy the vast benefits of this wonderful nation.

You will hardly believe, but here we have to work too to
enjoy _this_ _wonderful_ World :)

 AS>> Why should I think that US is the best place
 AS>> on the Earth ?

 FS> Maybe it *isn't*.  Have you ever considered *that*?

I don't care. I'm just happy to be there where I am and to
do what I do. I just don't like too confermed patriots
irrespective to their national affiliation whether they are
Russians, Chines or Americans :)

 AS>> BTW, my friends who went to Australia are more
 AS>> happy. So in any case I regard Auth as more favourable place
 AS>> for a human being to live.

 FS> That's *easy* to understand.  Australia is a very socialist
 FS> land -- kind of like Russia but with a lot more freedom.  The
 FS> transition for your socialist friends should be easy.

It seems you don't understand what "socializm" is. The requisite
condition for a socializm is absence of private property of means
of production. This is the key to understanding. What you falsely
call "socializm" is just more "socially" oriented state policy.
And I never considered your social policy as a good idea. Though,
I never considered total state property as a good idea either.
Optimum as a rule is somewhere in the middle. In general the less
people think about money the better society is. And Australians
(from my point of view) think much less about money than Americans
do. And they seem to be more calm and more well-wishing, so they
are really more comfortable. But what else a person need to be
happy except a mental comfort ? :)

 FS>> Immigrants have *initiative* -- quite unlike the majority of
 FS>> Europeans.

 AS>> They just like money a bit more than a Person that really needs
 AS>> to be happy :)

 FS> Money doesn't insure happiness, but it can contribute to it.

There are things that can contribute to it much more. Children
can make a man happy, science can make a man happy, love can
make a man happy, philosophy can make a man happy, hobby can
make a man happy .. but money cannot. They can make a man pleased,
but not for too long. Just till the moment a man acknoleges that
somebody has a bit more :)

 AS>>> I regard my life as something natural like wind and rain. But
 AS>>> life itself worth nothing without ones' efforts so I can't enjoy
 AS>>> just effortless plant existing. I rather value those
 AS>>> opportunities the life presents and enjoy those achievements I
 AS>>> owned due to my efforts. I don't value those benefits that are
 AS>>> not earned. They often cause groundless proud for the fakes.

 FS>> Sorry that you don't realize exactly how it was you came into
 FS>> being ... [sigh] ... and *I* am not the one to explain it to you.

 AS>> You should not be disturbed by this. I'm quite happy to be
 AS>> there where I am. But I'm sure you'd be quite impotent here.
 AS>> And this is what makes me feel better :)

 FS> "Impotent"???   Wow!  Russia sterilizes immigrants?

It seems I know English a bit better than you do. Look here:
"In impotent rage he got up and stalked up and down the flat".
Do you really think it was sexual impotency that is meant here ? :)

Bye, Sinc, Alex

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