Text 18306, 70 rader
Skriven 2005-12-10 04:52:00 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
Ärende: BBS Activity
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-=> Quoting Michiel Van Der Vlist to Frank Scheidt <=-

 >> OK, again ... however when a need arises I always *gain*
 >> "sufficient knowledge" ... after all, knowledge is not static

 MVDV>> When you are kicked out of FidoNet *before* you have obtained
 MVDV>> the knowledge on how to circumvent a feed cut, you may have a
 MVDV>> much harder time gaining that knowledge. You wil be caught in
 MVDV>> a chicken and egg problem. The place to get the knowledge is
 MVDV>> FidoNet, but the you have to get in first...
 
 > Actually getting kicked out of FidoNet entirely wouldn't crush
 > me.  I have a *lot* of things to do here and FidoNet is taking
 > up time which would otherwise be spent taking care of those things

 MVDV> Yet you obviously spent quit a lot of time at Fidonet. So it may not
 MVDV> "crush" you but you would miss it I'd say.

True ...
 
 >>> days.  Besides Docsplace is a very well-run BBS and I have no
 >>> interest in leaving it.

 MVDV>>> And that is where you fail on the "sufficiently determined" part.
 >
 >> My determination always comes into play when I actually
 >> *encounter* an obstacle, not when merely speculating about
 >> the *possibility* ...

 MVDV>> And then it may be too late....
 
 > ... and I might not care ...

 MVDV> "not sufficiently determined" in that case.

OK ...

 MVDV>> And that is why Björn can not evict Shannon and vice versa.
 >
 >> However in the FidoNet system *surely* there
 >> is what might be dubbed, "Higher Authority" ... [sigh] ...

 MVDV>> Oh there is higher authority. In fact thare is more than one. ;-)

 MVDV>> And that is the problem. There is no /universally/ accepted higher
 MVDV>> authority. In zone two, there is an echomail policy that delegates the
 MVDV>> power to overrule a moderator to the Echomail Coordinators. In zone one
 MVDV>> there is an echolist. In zone 3, 4, 5 and 6, there is nothing...

 MVDV>> Ergo, there is no effective "higher authority" to solve interzonal
 MVDV>> conflicts regarding echomail.
 
 > There *should* be also there should be an ombudsman ...

 MVDV> Well, there isn't and there probably never will be. You see, the guys
 MVDV> from Z1 (read the Americans) insist on such things to be handled by
 MVDV> their rules and their rules only. No compromise.

 MVDV> That however is not acceptable to the rest of FidoNet. Unlike in the
 MVDV> real world, FidoNet Z1 does not have the muscle to force their ways on
 MVDV> the rest. Not any more.

And we end with the expected anti-American note ... heh heh heh 
...

... A Canadian?  That's like an American without the gun ...

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