Text 25979, 55 rader
Skriven 2006-02-27 20:56:01 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
  Kommentar till text 25941 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
Ärende: Elist
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 MVDV>> ZCC_PUBLIC
 MVDV>> FIDONEWS
 MVDV>> FN_SYSOP

 MVDV>>> result in the upteeth repeating of all the arguments. I
 MVDV>>> would claim abuse, you would deny it. What's the point?

 >   Just getting the cases you are thinking about explicitly
 > stated.  You are right -- we disagree on what the abuse was
 > and who did it in those cases.

So what was the point in rehashing it?

 >   ZCC_PUBLIC is an example of what consequences can happen
 > when a moderator ignores putting a listing into the Elist.

It shows hat he moderator is not free to choose.

 > But it  is not an example of abuse by Thom and the Elist he maintains.

I believe it is. See? here we go again.

 >   FIDONEWS is also an example of the moderator ignoring the Elist.

I believe it was.

 >   FN_SYSOP has two examples.

Three.

 >   The first is the only one I would call
 >   abuse in which the Elist Keeper (Thom) went against the rules he had
 >   established and published for the Elist.  He did that only after
 >   careful consideration and pressure from the *C chain.  The second
 >   example is again one of the moderator choosing to ignore the
 >   Elist. That is not a fault of the Elist or the Elist keeper.

See above.

And the third is where the e-list keeper liste himself with a snotty
description sgowing obvious bias against the real moderator.

 MVDV>> What I object to is having to produce the same evidence over and over

 >    You made a statement -- that you knew of five examples of
 > abuse by the Elist.  You were asked to name what was on your mind

You were asking for known facts. We have discussed all but the very last
incident several times over the years.


Cheers, Michiel

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