Text 31676, 79 rader
Skriven 2006-06-13 11:39:52 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 31615 av SHANNON TALLEY (1:275/311)
Ärende: Pickled Pirates Prop #2
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 ST> If he would make that small concession, you'd have my word that I would
 ST> modify my Fidonews website and remove the documentation that offends MvD
 ST> (the obvious stuff quoted from Felten).  I would keep that stuff //off//
 ST> the website until such time as Felten makes another (very) obvious hate
 ST> comment against my country.  I'd even be obliged to let 'you' be the judge
 ST> of said comment if he were to ever make one.

[blush] but knowing you both the little I know. nothing of this will ever
happend.

 ST> As for the copyrighted material he may or may not have available; I'm very
 ST> happy to read that whatever he has is now password protected.  It should
 ST> have been from the very beginning.  To advertise a site in Fidonews that
 ST> provided free copyrighted material is a kick in the face to every
 ST> professional and amateur programmer that makes a living writing and
 ST> selling software.  Since whatever he may or may not have on his website is
 ST> now password protected, that issue is dead as it's impossible to tell
 ST> either way.  His affiliation with whatever political organization he
 ST> want's to affiliate himself with is certainly his own business.  I would
 ST> sincerely hope that he won't continually get offended if I post an update
 ST> to the pirate situation on an occasion, and I won't be offended if he
 ST> posts an update as well (pro or con) as long as it's all in the spirit of
 ST> friendly debate.

It has been very quiet here about Pirate Bay now so I don't know what's
happening but connecting Pirat Partiet with Pirate Bay is unjust.
What they want to do now is that everyone that have broadband should pay
an extra tax just because we have the tools to download. Then they even could
charge me with rape because I have the tool for that as well and then Pirat
Partiet
might do something about this stupidity.

 ST> Although many may disagree, but in my opinion, the editor of an
 ST> international newsletter shouldn't be bias.  If the editor of the Berlin
 ST> Times (or some leading newspaper in Sweden, France or Germany) made public
 ST> comments regarding his hatred toward the Polish, I don't believe he would
 ST> be in his position very long.  Similarly, if the editor of the New York
 ST> Times (rag) made it known in public he / she hated blacks, she would be
 ST> fired pretty quickly.  Since Felten made it well known that he hates
 ST> Americans, I don't think he should be editor of Fidonews.

I don't think this is the issue. We don't hate you att all but your country
have shown
a great deal of disrespect towards other nations (oh jezzz..what am I getting
myself
into now) and your bigbrother mentality is what we objects to. If it isn't done
the
American way, well, fuck the rest. That's how we see it and then there are many
ways of expressing this opinion and perhaps he hasn't done it the right way.

 ST> However, it's
 ST> my opinion, and for the most part, my opinion doesn't count in this
 ST> particular matter.  But, I do believe he does owe my country an apology,
 ST> and if he does present one in this echo (or Fidonews), I will remove the
 ST> material documentation on my website.  A simple apology, but one that
 ST> isn't sarcastic or derogatory in nature (defeats the purpose).

If that should be the case, there are many more in here that should come up
with an apology (no names) so my suggestion is that that you remove your
material temporarily and see what happends. This would be the most generous
thing to do and if that wouldn't work out I guess that you're free to bring it
back up.

 ST> This is a very generous concession.  Michael has already stated that if I
 ST> remove that material, he will stop his ranting about the copyright issue.
 ST> This could finally end this argument.

If you should do that, no one can hold *you* responsible for what might happend
in the future and someone have to start somewhere since I find it difficult to
believe that anyone (no names again) should come up with an apology, on either
side, stubborn as you all are.....

 ST> Warmest regards,
 ST> Shannon

The same to you.

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