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Text 35831, 89 rader
Skriven 2006-08-03 10:59:17 av Roy Witt (1:1/22)
  Kommentar till text 35763 av BOB KLAHN (1:123/140)
Ärende: Stupid Lebanese!
========================
03 Aug 06 02:17, BOB KLAHN wrote to ROY WITT:


 >>>>>>  JD>   The only people in that building were refugees from an
 >>>>>>  JD> earlier bombing in Southern Lebanon.  Women & Children and
 >>>>>>  JD> old men.

 >>>>>> You would think that when the bombing started, they would have
 >>>>>> moved off to the north, rather than stick around to help the
 >>>>>> Hez'...

 JD>>>>> You would think a lot of things, but they thought they were safe
 JD>>>>> in the basement of that building.

 RW>>>> No one (note that I'm talking about noone) is safe in a war
 RW>>>> zone and you of all people should know that. So do the
 RW>>>> Lebs, being familiar with this stuff from birth..

 BK>>>  Where would they go, and how would they get there?

 RW>> North...

 BK>>>  Walk?

 RW>> If there was no transportation, you bet.

 BK>  A healthy man normally does about 20 miles a day. What would an
 BK>  elderly person or child do, over blown up roads, in the Middle
 BK>  East, in late July?

That would depend on how determined they are to move out of danger.
Desperate measures in desperate situations means extraordinary action.
They'll either move or just as they mistakenly did, hide. Unfortunately
for them, they made the wrong choice.

 BK>>>  Most were children or elderly.

 RW>> So, you're saying that children and old people can't walk?
 RW>> I wonder what refugees did before there were motorized
 RW>> vehicles..

 BK>  To a great extent, died. Remember, the Israelis were not sitting
 BK>  there waiting for the exodus, and they were bombing roads and
 BK>  bridges.

 BK>>> Most Lebanese don't have cars.

 RW>> That's right, so they're used to 'walking'....

 BK>  Not for many miles in late July in Lebanon. Not without food or
 BK>  water, not while the roads and bridges are being bombed.

Desperate situations make people do things they wouldn't ordinarily do.

 BK>>>  Hired transport was running something like $1000 per person.

 RW>> Which is why they should have left the area long ago,
 RW>> rather than stay and allow the Lez' to decide their fate...

 BK>  How long ago?

About the time the Israeli warned them to leave, before the Israeli
retaliation started.

 BK> How many Israelis are not evacuating?

They don't have much choice, since they're being beseiged by rockets that
can reach anywhere in Israel. And it won't end there, as the Hez' are
being supplied with even longer range rockets...

 BK>>>  And when they got there where would there be that they could
 BK>>>  find shelter, food and water?

 RW>> I don't see the difference, they weren't getting that where
 RW>> they were.

 BK>  They had no reason to expect the shelling and bombing would go
 BK>  on as long as it did. Once it let up they could seek releif.

LOL! Rather, they thought that Israel wouldn't do anything about the Hez'
rockets and stayed, reassured I suppose by the Hez' themselves who told
them that Israel would negotiate rather than fight. Little did they know
that the Hez' were talking wishful thinking.


               R\%/itt

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