Text 41575, 109 rader
Skriven 2006-10-19 15:53:00 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
  Kommentar till text 41568 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
Ärende: DUD-file
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Hello Jeff!

On Thursday October 19 2006 06:24, you wrote to me:

 MV>> Janis and Janis only. *She* made the filegate rules. Not me.
 MV>> *She* decided that Filegate rules apply. Not me. *She* deicded to
 MV>> take the action of sending it DUD file and interfere with the
 MV>> smooth operation of the network. Not me. It was her decision and
 MV>> her decision only.

 JS>      It was her decision to do what she did.

Right. And so *she* is responsible for that and no one else.

 JS> The point that you refuse to accept is that she made that decision as
 JS> a reaction to what YOU did.

Which in turn was a response to something else which was a response to... and
so we could go back al the way to the Big Bang along the chain of cause and
effect.

Does not alter the fact that the *she* send the DUD file. Her action, her
decision.

 JS> that she took and be willing to explain why. How come you continue to
 JS> deny your responsibility for your actions and don't want people to
 JS> know why?

Not at all. I take full responsibility for adding those three lines to my
article. I do not take responsibility for the actions of others.

 MV>> There is nothing to understand. Janis send the DUD file. Her
 MV>> decision. Period.

 JS>>>        Did Janis remove the Fidonews issue because of the
 JS>>> copyrighted article that you wrote? Why in your opinion did she
 JS>>> remove the Fidonews issue?

 MV>> What do opinions on her reasons matter? *She* decided to do it.
 MV>> *She* is responsible for that action.

 JS>      Just as you should be for yours.  Do you have any sense of
 JS> responsibility for the things that you do?

Of course. Where did I avert such responsibility?

 JS>      I asked you a simple question Michiel.

Which I suspect to be a trick question.

 JS>  What in your opinion was the reason that Janis took the action that
 JS> she did.

And my answer is that my opinion is irrelevant. If you want to know why Janis
did what she did, you should ask her.

Ok, you want to know my opinion? I think she thought she had found the stick to
hit the dog she had been wanting to hit for some time. It is no secret that
Janis is no fan of Björn and she added some oil on the fire of those wanting
him out.

She played the old game of Khontrol. She rattled the weapon of the
distribution. She wanted to show her power. She just forgot that these days
nobody needs her Filegate to distribute FidoNews any more. FidoNet over IP
freed us from the tyranny of the distributors. She just didn't get that.

 MV>> It was her decison and her decison only nevertheless. Only she is
 MV>> resposible for that decision.

 JS>      Just as you should be for yours. Correct?

Of course. What decision of mine should I take responsibility for you think?

 JS>>>      I can accept that. I see a number of possible solutions and
 JS>>> will continue to work toward the best solution.
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 MV>> By which you will widen the gap between the zones even more.

 JS>      Speaks a man of experience in that regard.

So if you consider me a man of experience why don't you listen and heed my
advice: drop this "replace Björn" thing.

 JS>>>>>      That will depend soley on whether Björn chooses to start
 JS>>>>> acting as a moderator here. That is the only way I see it
 JS>>>>> being dropped.

 MV>> Yeah, your way again...

 JS>      Well look at what your way has accomplished. Nothing, diddly,
 JS> squat, zip, zilch, nada, zero, naught, zippo.

Considering the history, in my estimation the present situation is the best
that can be achieved. It is not perfect, but this is as good as it gets.

I am willing to accept the situation as it is.

Why won't you?

 JS>      I am not saying that "My way" as you call it is or will turn out
 JS> to be the best. What I am saying is if one way doesn't work why avoid
 JS> trying other ways?

Because in my estimate your cure is worse than the disease.

Cheers, Michiel

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