Text 43455, 81 rader
Skriven 2006-11-29 22:41:37 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 43450 av shannon talley (1:275/311)
Ärende: Insults
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Hello shannon.

29 Nov 06 19:43, you wrote to me:

 st> Hello Jeff,

 >>    Shannon, I take his statement to say that Bjorn hates those
 >> *people* be them Jews, Muslims, Christians, or whomever that use
 >> their religion as justification of their actions. I think it is
 >> important to say that I think Bjorn hates the people for their
 >> behavior and not them for being Jews, Muslims, or Christians. I
 >> don't see him as saying that he hates people for being of

 st> Jeff -- perhaps that was what he did mean, but I'm not sure.  If in
 st> turn he had been more polite and less insulting and argumentative I
 st> would have been more apt to listen to him and try to understand his
 st> paradigm a little better.


     That blame I think falls on both of you. You both will pick apart
what each other says in order to use it to prove some point about how
one thinks the other is wrong or bad. We are all good and we are all bad.
I think Bjorn takes exception at your posting your opinion or judgement
of him and your perception of what he has said here on your website. I am
not trying to speak for him but I don't think he would have as much of a
problem with your opinion if you were to sign the statements that you make
instead of presenting them without indicating the author. You are free to
think of him as you choose just as we all are. I personally think that you
could have handled it better. I don't deny your right to your opinion but
I think you could have expressed it in a better way.


 st> Unfortunately Jeff -- as you can read by his posts, he continues to
 st> call me a religious fanatic, compares me to Saddam, and continues to
 st> accuse me of slandering poor Bob's deceased wife, which -- I haven't.


     He has called me names before too as well as comparing me to other
people or groups. This is all just a big word game Shannon. Do you KNOW
that you are not a religous fanatic? If so then blow it off. The only
names that people can call me that actually bother me are those that *I*
know to be true. Everything else is just wrongly used words.


 st> He hasn't provided any proof that I'm either a fanatic (only an
 st> admitted Christian -- and a struggling one at that), nor has he
 st> provided any proof that I've slandered poor Bob's deceased wife.
 st> Because of these falsehoods, his explanation doesn't carry any
 st> credibility with me.


 st>  If simply being a Christian means one is a
 st> fanatic, what does that do to the meaning of his quoted statement?

     I think that is YOUR conclusion Shannon and not supported by what
Bjorn has said. It might have helped if Bjorn had expressed his thoughts
a little more clearly. But you could have also looked at all of what he
said instead of only part and then reacting to that part. Again the
responsibility lies with you both.


 st> If you can convince him to apologize for these falsehoods, I'd be
 st> happy to remove his quote and my comment from my website.


     How about if he states that he isn't judging you as a bad Christian
and that any opinions that he expressed were meant towards you as a person
and not as a Christian person? Your conflict with Bjorn isn't really related
to you being a Christian. Why can't we take the religous element out of this?


 st> Warmest regards,
 st> Shannon

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