Text 46760, 84 rader
Skriven 2007-01-05 20:49:22 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 46753 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: America
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Hello Michiel.

06 Jan 07 01:11, you wrote to me:

 MV> Hello Jeff!

 MV> On Friday January 05 2007 17:33, you wrote to Björn Forsström:

 BF>>>>> So then it's OK for me to publish the netmail I recieved from
 BF>>>>> Shannon? I just might do that then.

 RC>>>> As long as your name appears in the to/from fields, the message
 RC>>>> belongs to you and you can do with it as you please.

 BF>>> You seems to be the only one with that wierd opinion.

 JS>>      A rather common opinion actually.  If I send you a letter or
 JS>> in this case a netmail. I have the option of also sending it to
 JS>> others or making it available to others in other forums.

 MV> Another cultural difference again I am afraid. You are right from the
 MV> legal POV. Over here however what is legally permitted is not always
 MV> socially acceptable. Publishing private correspondence without the
 MV> consent of the author is considered extremely bad taste here. One can
 MV> not expect to get away with it without seriously damaging the
 MV> relationship with the author.

     I am not suggesting that the same may not be also true here.
Hypothetically, the fact that I am the addresee of a netmail that you
might send me may give me the right to make it available as I choose.
That doesn't mean that it would be normally right to do so. One obvious
exception would be if both parties were to aggree on a disclosure of
the communication. Another would be legal disclosures.

 JS>> When you receive that message you have the option of doing the
 JS>> same thing if you so choose. That message upon reception is yours
 JS>> to do with as you see fit. There are a number of reasons why
 JS>> people wouldn't normally do this though.

 MV> One of the reasons being that no one knowing about it would ever take
 MV> you into his confidence again.


     Trust is one of the things that is important to me. It isn't something
that is easy to aquire sometimes and it is also something that can be quick
to disappear. I try to by default give people a certain amount of trust until
they show me that that trust is undiserved. A good example of that would be
if in that same scenario I were to make available for my own gain a
communication that you sent to me with intent that it remain private. While
I think that netmail should not be used to communicate with an expectation
of privacy it is often used for that purpose.


 BF>>> Don't think that anyone will ever send you a netmail after this.

 MV> Or at least not write anything that he/she would not write in public.

     That could very well be true.

 JS>>      That is of course their choice.

 MV> Are you absolutely sure, you never wrote anything in private that you
 MV> would rather not see blabbered all over town?

     There are several distinctions that come to mind. One is gossip (What I
call talking about people behind their back) which we all have done I am
sure. And the other is personal information or communication. Of the latter
I think that people should have the right privacy.


 MV> Do not do unto others....

     Hmm... I always thought it was "Do unto others as you would have them do
unto you"? Guess it depends from which end your looking at it from? <g>

 MV> Cheers, Michiel

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Jeff

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