Text 10439, 148 rader
Skriven 2008-01-29 12:07:59 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 10399 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
Ärende: Big Brother is Watching YOU!
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29 Jan 08 07:47, Ward Dossche wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>> If it complies with the latest customs regs, it will also have a
 RW>> personal ID number that tells the inspector where to look in the
 RW>> database for your personal information.

 WD> You are bypassing the fact that I am talking about EU-passports, not
 WD> USA-issued ones.

Too bad...had you been issued a US passport, you might not be experiencing
these problems.

 WD> The EU-passports were already issued with a chip long before the US
 WD> awoke from the 9/11 nightmare.

Yeah, a free nation is always last to have to close it's system to those
who would abuse those freedoms.

 WD> The first country to have them was Denmark. These Danes and toys have
 WD> always had a very special relationship.

That's odd...I don't recall ever seeing any toys made in Denmark.

 WD> BTW, we celebrate 50 years of LEGO-bricks in January, another fine
 WD> Danish product.

Way behind the times then. Lincoln logs, a very fine American product,
once played with by my father as a child, predates Lego...however, my
former FIL, Carlos Christiansen was related to the founder and told me
many stories about his youth. BTW, the Lego toy manufacturer originated
over 70 years ago.

 RW>WD>> Several technologies are used. Mine is expiring next week anyway
 RW>WD>> so I'll try if some scans can be made. On one of the pages e.g.
 RW>WD>> there's a micro-perforation of my photo. Somewhere else there's a
 RW>WD>> mere dot which also contains that photo. There is hidden
 RW>WD>> micro-print and other stuff. It's an older passport so has not
 RW>WD>> yet the electronic gizmos of the newer ones. My newone will have
 RW>WD>> a chip with electronic readable data,

 RW>> No, it will have a lookup number of your personal info in a
 RW>> database.

 WD> Nope, this is a EU-passport intended for worldwide trabel, not to
 WD> link into a US database.

If you're not in the US database, you'll have to go through customs like
every other visitor when you visit.

 WD> Checking of the US database is done by crossreferencing the name of
 WD> the bearer and the passport-number plus its date of issue (which both
 WD> change every 6 years). Some time ago an immigration officer remarked
 WD> "You seem to get around here", the system listed all of my entries
 WD> since they went electronic. Before that they had to manually go
 WD> through some impressive thick books.

No doubt.

 WD> There is quite some opposition by the US requiring the airlines to
 WD> send the electronic immigration information already at departure of
 WD> the aircraft. I don't mind however as I've noticed most people now
 WD> are pre-cleared already upon arrival and the immigration-process,
 WD> though still a PITA, moves quicker than before.

Had the EU had the foresite to do it correctly, you could have a passport
that would allow you entry to the US merely by waving your passport at a
RFID scanner. That's already setup here between Canada, Mexico and the US.
Frequent travelers can either get a NEXUS ID or a SENTRI ID, the former to
walk by the RFID scanners at the US/Canadian border and the latter ditto
crossing the US/Mexico border. I don't recall if those are already in use
or if they come online on January 31, this year.

 RW>> That keeps your
 RW>> ID and personal info secure while allowing you quicker access
 RW>> through customs.

 WD> US customs have never checked my ID. Customs are a different
 WD> department than Homeland Security under which 'immigration
 WD> inspection' now resides.

They're now one and the same under the HLS logo.

 WD> Since you've never "been anywhere", per your own admission, there's
 WD> no way you would know.

Wrong, as usual. One does not have to be a 'world traveler' to know the
laws of immigration and traveling.

 RW>> An ore ship is more likely to sink in Lake Superior than an oil
 RW>> tanker.

 WD> Nice song.

Just correcting your ignorance of the lake.

 RW>> the occasional idiot who dumps his oil drainings in it, but there is
 RW>> no large quantity of oil in the storm sewers...The EPA and CARB
 RW>> would both be down on LA for allowing that to happen. And shit rolls
 RW>> downhill. When the guy who dumps his oil draining in the sewer gets
 RW>> caught, there's a big fine. So people don't do it.

 WD> IMO has monitored it and has issued the data some years ago.

Unfortunately, they didn't have a clue or you're imbelishing the story, as
usual.

 WD> There's more than 'dumping oil' in a sewer, there's run-off from the
 WD> streets and all kinds of business/practices.

I mentioned that. It still doesn't make up even 1% of an oil tanker spill.

 WD> You'd be amazed about the amount of oil being discharged via 2-stroke
 WD> lawn-mowers for example. Then accumulate that for a city the size of
 WD> LA. Add to that the discharge by 2-stroke outboard engines.

FYI, two stroke engines have been banned from the LA basin for years. You
can't even get a two stroke motorcycle licensed in LA.

 WD> IMO published an estimate about the amount of oil lost by
 WD> recreational craft on the water ... incredible.

That used to be the case when there were two stroke engines in boats.
That still never amounted to 1% of an oil tanker spill.

 WD> Also the discharge I'm talking about is gradual. 24hrs a day, 365
 WD> days a year ...

Maybe in the EU, but it isn't here.

 WD> One drop in a bucket is nothing, but continuous dropping will fill
 WD> the bucket.

No shit!?

 WD> And I mentionned LA because that was what IMO wrote about, but it's a
 WD> universal trend ... more oil flows to the sea than that due to tanker
 WD> or shipping accident.

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