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Skriven 2007-05-27 12:20:06 av Carol Shenkenberger (1:261/1466.0)
   Kommentar till text 1711 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
Ärende: This Echo
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JS>     Then you are missing many of Bjorn's posts Carol. On a number of
JS>occasions there has been something said and Bjorn will interject a
JS>anti-American comment. Or use derogatory slang terms to refer to Americans.

I stopped reading here regular well over a year ago.  I might be here a
bit more often if people changed titles more, but as it is I scan only
now and again.



JS> CS>  In fact, Amercians *arent* universally loved overseas <grin>.

JS>      And I doubt that we ever will be even generally loved overseas for
JS>several reasons. Westerners see America as just another
JS>nation, the most commercially successful one, with a poor
JS>pollution record and a number of
JS>other bad things. Also America is seen by many as a Police figure, although
JS>the UN's decisions are much more respected, it is
JS>frequently the US that has the required military power to
JS>get the UN job done. America is a required nation, a
JS>stabilizer in the world. But along with that there is also
JS>bound
JS>to be resentment and dislike.

It's also how we interact sometimes.  Face to Face.


JS> CS>  We are often too opinionated and less likely to take another
JS> CS> culture's values and respect them.  We as a group are prone at least
JS> CS> think 'why don't you do it my way' (People with sense don't actually
JS> CS> say that but you can tell they are thinking it).

JS>     Additionally I would say that the US does not go nearly far enough to
JS>try to understand other cultures. Better communication and understanding is
JS>the key. In fact there are a number of things that need to
JS>be changed. America's self perception needs to change to
JS>become more modest. Something
JS>that will hopefully work toward earning more respect amoung other countries.

Things seem to be swapping a little it but I think the newest Bush did
us some harm there.


JS>I also think that America should no longer use the idea of supporting
JS>terrorism or armed conflict in one country to remove its
JS>present government. This has always backfired. All arms
JS>sold to the world, are arms that later need to be
JS>confiscated.

Definately.


JS> CS> Traveling the world, you can see that Americans are a very unique
JS> CS> type of 'monoculturalizm'.  There are others like that too, but they
JS> CS> don't travel outside their areas as much.  Chinese for example.
JS> CS> Japanese too among a large segment of them (but they are so polite,
JS> CS> it's apt to never be noticed and they have one difference, they
JS> CS> really don't mind that othercountries and people think differently.
JS> CS> They just 'know' they are 'better';-)


JS>     I don't think that we are all that much differant in basic ways. The
JS>differance is that America, Americans, is a much more open culture. Open
JS>to world view and to world citicizm. I am sure that we think we are better
JS>just as much as anyone else.


Nope, the level of that is missing in other places.  They theink they
are as good 'as' not better.

JS> CS> So, when 'we' see something that isnt the same, such as the
copywrite JS> CS> laws, 'we' immediately want the 'other culture' to
change to our view.


JS>     Why? If a country enacts laws that work for that country AND it's peopl
JS>why should we have a problem with that? The squable here over copyrights was
JS>more about individuals using copyrights to try to make some point.


True, and if you look past it, some interesting points were made.  The
OZ one about the person's rights being more important than some big
company for example.  Thats my own translation of course.

                xxcarol

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